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Topic: Schoolboy cracks age-old mathematics problem
Replies: 171   Last Post: Jun 10, 2012 10:16 AM

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 Arindam Banerjee Posts: 429 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Deriving the mathematical formula e=0.5mVVN(N-k) in painstaking
detail yet again, for the umpteeth time!

Posted: Jun 6, 2012 6:56 PM

On Jun 7, 12:42 am, Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 6, 8:03 am, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Jun 6, 10:44 pm, Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Jun 5, 9:29 pm, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Jun 5, 11:09 pm, Zinnic <zinnic....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Jun 4, 12:49 am, Arindam Banerjee <adda1...@bigpond.com> wrote:
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> > > > > From yor post:
> > > > > "So the only thing to do, is to perform an experiment that will show
> > > > > that a body in free space with nothing to hold it in any way, can
> > > > > accelerate with an energy source internal to its geometry.  This
> > > > > energy source could be fuel like
> > > > > hydrogen, nuclear - for the moment".

>
> > > > > Wow  !!  Are you now claiming that maneuvering a satellite with a
> > > > > "hydrogen". "nuclear" (or internal combustion?) energy source will be
> > > > > evidence of  the use of an "internal force" engine?

>
> > > > Internal force can and does cause rotation as in any electric motor,
> > > > not linear translation (as what needs to be done with IFEs).  The
> > > > latter is done with rockets to put satellites into
> > > > orbits.

>
> > > > Rockets are first generation internal force engines, though no one but
> > > > myself thinks of them this way.

>
> > > If "rockets are  first generation internal force engines", what "in
> > > your mind only" disqualifies the
> > > internal combustion engine?

>
> > They do not work in outer space.
>
> They could do so when fueled inside a space vehicle. For example they
> could drive the vehicle by emission of their hot exhaust gases. Very,
> very low efficiency but essentially the same principle as rocket
> engines.

True, exhaust gases can move a body forward. Not quite the way to get
to the stars though, not that rockets can take us to the stars, only
to the planets (and not
back so easily).

So again I ask, how does rocketry qualify as first generation
> internal force engines as apart from other feasible engines that also
> use 'external' fuels as an energy source.

Because they work in outer space, as I already said. Internal Force
Engines are conceived and designed to work in outer space, though they
may have applications
on Earth (such as very fast aeroplanes, going in straight lines; or
ships and submarines going much faster than now).

> An honest question deserves an honest answer

The question is stupid, and the person asking it is dishonest as I
have out long ago. Alas, this is the only sort around that takes
interest.

Arindam (bin Einsten ban Gandi) Banerjee, chap with many trillion
dollar notes and very fortunately some loose change as well.

> Zinnic.

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