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Re: Matheology § 038
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 6:51 AM
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On 16 Jun., 00:37, PotatoSauce <kiwisqu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Friday, June 15, 2012 4:54:37 PM UTC-4, WM wrote:
> > > Learn what a bijection is.
>
> > I know how it is defined.
>
> Obviously you don't, since you go on to say:
>

> > But it is nonsense, nevertheless.
> > For every x you take there are infinitely many you don't take.

>
> The definition of surjectivity is, "for every x in the codomain, there is a preimage."


The expression: "Every x" is meaningless for an infinite set.
>
> That is all that means. Nothing more, nothing less.


I know. Nevertheless, the expression: "Every x" is meaningless for an
infinite set.

>
> You are trying to bring in some weird philosophical interpretation to simple words, finding a contradiction, then complaining about it.


No I am trying to teach you that Cantor needs limits.

If we cover every rational of the unit interval by an interval I_n of
length 10^-n, then we get, for every n, at most n Intervals and at
most n intervals in the complement. If there was no limit, there could
never appear a completely disconnected space in the limit.
Look here what a set theorist has to say about that: "I did not talk
about what happens at the k -th stage. I talked about what happens
after all the finite stages)" ? Asaf Karagila
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/132022/formalizing-an-idea

What is after all finite stages, if not the limt?

Unless we go to the limit, there is no chance to have a cardinality
aleph_0 of a set that contains only finite numbers 2n, i.e. that in
every finite case contains a number that is larger than its
cardinality.

Regards, WM



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