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Re: Vindication of Goldbach's conjecture
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:25 PM
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On Jun 16, 1:08 pm, mluttgens <lutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 14 juin, 16:24, Gus Gassmann <horand.gassm...@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
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> > On Jun 14, 6:28 am, mluttgens <lutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On 10 juin, 00:20, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
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> > > > In article <0b8c04e9-f6c1-48c0-8f63-c115150dd...@f30g2000vbz.googlegroups.com>,
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> > > > mluttgens  <lutt...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > You refuse to address the question; I conclude you are a troll.
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> > > > -- Richard
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> > > My response is contained in the following new version:
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> > > Vindication of Goldbach's conjecture
> > > ______________________________

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> > > According to the conjecture, every even integer greater than 4 can be
> > > expressed as the sum of two primes.

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> > > Let's consider two identical infinite series S and S' of uneven
> > > numbers, where S and S' = 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, etc...
> > > In other words, S(n) = S'(n) = 2n +1, with n beginning at 1.
> > > Let?s note that S and S? contain only natural numbers.

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> > > The fact that some uneven numbers contained in the series S and S' can
> > > be
> > > the result of mathematical operations, for instance exponentiation, is
> > > thus irrelevant.

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> > > By adding successively each number of S to all the numbers of S', one
> > > gets a series P of even numbers.

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> > > Example:
> > > _______

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> > > n     S    S'
> > > _     _    _

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> > > 1     3    3
> > > 2     5    5
> > > 3     7    7
> > > 4     9    9
> > > 5    11   11
> > > 6    13   13
> > > 7    15   15
> > > 8    17   17
> > > 9    19   19
> > > 10   21   21
> > > 11   23   23

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> > > By adding, one gets the following even numbers of series P:
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> > > From S = 3:            6, 8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26
> > > From S = 5:            8, 10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28
> > > From S = 7:          10, 12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30
> > > From S = 9:          12, 14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32
> > > From S = 11:        14, 16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34
> > > From S = 13:        16, 18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36
> > > From S = 15:        18, 20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38
> > > From S = 17:        20, 22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40
> > > From S = 19:        22, 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42
> > > From S = 21:        24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44
> > > From S = 23:        26, 28, 30, 32, 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44, 46

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> > > Thus, series P contains all the even numbers from 6 to 46.
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> > > In P, the number 26 = 3+23, 5+21, 7+19, 9+17, 11+15, 13+13, 15+11,
> > > 17+9, 19+7, 21+5 and 23+3, all the terms coming from the  successive
> > > uneven numbers of S and S' from 3 to 23, where 23 = 26 - 3.
> > > As S and S' contain all the prime numbers inferior or equal to 26-3 ,
> > > the even number 26 is necessarily the sum of two primes.
> > > Let?s note that it is not necessary to indentify those primes. Knowing
> > > that they exist in S and S? is enough..
> > > This applies mutatis mutandi to any even integer

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> > > Conclusion:
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> > > Every even integer greater than 4 can be expressed as the sum of two
> > > primes.
> > > In other words, the above procedure vindicates Goldbach's conjecture.

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> > It appears you do not even understand the problem. How do you *KNOW*
> > that you will never miss an even number using this schema? It is fine
> > and good to verify that every even integer less than 47 can be written
> > as a sum of two primes, but what about 83749105938571693046? Your
> > method says nothing about that number.

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> Bigger is the number, and more primes it contains.
> Hence, the number of possible sums of two primes corresponding to a
> number
> is proportional to the magnitude of the number.
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> Thus, it would be ridiculous to try a number as big as
> 83749105938571693046


So does the number I gave you have a representation as the sum of two
primes? And what are the two primes? (I must insist on a primality
proof.) Give me any representation. Should be easy, since you have so
many to choose from, right?



> Here is an example where N is greater then 26:
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> Example: N = 138 and N-3 = 135
> ______________________________
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> The relevant primes p are
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> 3      5      7     11     13     17     19     23     29
> 31    37     41     43     47     53     59     61     67     71
> 73    79     83     89     97    101    103    107    109    113
> 127  131
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> N-p =
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> 135  133     131    127   125    121     119    115    109
> 107  101      97     95    91     85      79     77     71    67
>  65   59      55     49    41     37      35     31     29    25
>  11    7
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> Thus N = 5+133, 7+131, 11+127, 29+109, 31+107, etc...
>
> Marcel Luttgens




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