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Topic: more examples Re: Perpetual-Motion deriving discreteness but not the
reverse Chapt13.40081 perpetual motion #701 New Physics #821 ATOM TOTALITY
5th ed

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 hanson Posts: 1,481 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: more examples Re: Perpetual-Motion deriving
Posted: Jul 4, 2012 1:58 PM

"Poutnik" <poutnik@privacy.invalid> wrote:
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Ludwig Archimedes Plutonium Poehl posted on his
"Perpetual-Motion deriving" Toilet brush Sales route:
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In the Electromagnetic Spectrum we can visualize that
the longest wavelength is the size of the Cosmos,
while the shortest wavelength is restricted by the
Planck length.
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So in this comparison, the inverse of the longest would
be far smaller than the Planck length wavelength.
So we have agreement here.....
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hanson wrote:
... but only for sure when Archie begins to
refer to himself in the 3rd person, he then
can claim to "have agreement here"
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Poutnik wrote:
Does it directly depend on what is chosen as length unit ?
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hanson wrote:
... ahahahaha... of course. One can make all kinds
of assumptions and declare definitions to satisfy
one's own dreams and fancy. Here's a excerpt
from an old post. Do add onto that list, wantonly...
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... and wander off beyond the bend into yondern...
into that wonderful undiscovered land from whose
borne no traveler has yet returned, except for
Ludwig Poehl.... ahahahaha.. AHAHAHAHA.....
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<http://tinyurl.com/4kpwlxe> Min MLT search

If you take a Hubble time, T= 1/H,
to cross the distance of a Plank length, L, you have,
by definition, a minimum speed, vmin = L*H.

Now, comparing Freddy's EM unit length of
::: *** l_F = hbar/(m_e*c) = 3.86E-11 cm ***,

to unit lengths in the realm where gravitational
effects do prevail we get to the Planck Length unit,
constructed/proposed in 1899, which says
::: *** l_pl = sqrt (hbar*G/c^3) = 1.62E-33 cm ***
But, that is by far not the smallest conceivable
unit length we can construct, imagine or conjure up.

Consider the Kerr event horizon for the mass of
the electron, which gives you a length that you
can use as another "smallest" unit with
::: *** l_e = m_e*G/c^2 = 6.76E-56 cm ***, ....

then for good EM measure throw in the Finestructure
constant (a), pi and sqrt(3) in, to give it some flavor
and flair and you get:
::: *** l_a = m_e*G*pi*a*sqrt(3)/c^2 = 2.68-57 cm ***

which gives you a new unit length, l_a, that beats the
ass of the Planck length l_pl, by some than
6E+23 magnitudes. (see N_A below)

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wherein it is demeonstrated that Hebe-Herbie does have
a point but only when his "better pendulum bob swings" are
viewed in terms of still samller possible time scale units,
which are
...... t_Min = [t_pl ^2] *2 * H = 1.12e-104 sec

wherein t_pl = Planktime and H = Hubble ~ 1.9e-18/sec....
where said t_Min is a chopped the time quantum
38 magnitudes down from the next larger unit time set,
namely
..... t_e = (m_e*G)/c^3) = 2.2e-66 sec

wherein m_e = restmass of electron, which makes t_Min
out to be a whopping 60 orders of magnitude samller
than Planck?s time unit:
....... t_pl = sqrt (hbar*G/c^5)] = +/- 5.4e-44 sec
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Have fun, and thanks for the laughs, guys... hahahanson.