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Topic: Matheology § 074
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 Virgil Posts: 8,833 Registered: 1/6/11
Re: Matheology � 074
Posted: Jul 14, 2012 8:20 PM

In article <jtsrr0\$9or\$1@speranza.aioe.org>,
"LudovicoVan" <julio@diegidio.name> wrote:

> "dilettante" <no@nonono.no> wrote in message
> news:jtspl1\$jnd\$1@dont-email.me...

> > "WM" <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote in message

> >> On 14 Jul., 20:01, "dilettante" <n...@nonono.no> wrote:
> >>> "WM" <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote in message
> >>>

> >>> > Mathematics, as I teach it gives the improper limit
> >>> > ((((((10^0)/10)+10^1)/10)+10^2)/10)+... = oo
> >>> > of the sequence

> >>>
> >>> > 1
> >>> > 0,1
> >>> > 10,1
> >>> > 1,01
> >>> > 101,01
> >>> > 10,101
> >>> > 1010,101
> >>> > 101,0101
> >>> > ...

> >>>
> >>> > Set theory gives 0.
> >>> > What is correct?

> >>>
> >>> The limit is infinity. Set theory says nothing different, but you will
> >>> pretend to be unable to understand that, and babble some irrelevant
> >>> nonsense
> >>> about what set theory says about something else. This process may be
> >>> repeated as often as one likes.-

> >>
> >> Look what Virgil says:
> >>

> >>> The limit exists because limit superior = limit inferior = empty set
> >>
> >> Right in ZFC and right in most other of the set theories of standard
> >> mathematics.

> >
> > We were talking about a sequence. If Virgil claimed that the limit of that
> > sequence were something other than infinity, he would be mistaken. But
> > obviously he is not talking about that sequence: the limit he gives is a
> > set, not a a number.

>
> Has that (limit) set anything to do with the balls and vase problem?

Since each of the sets, S_n represents the set of balls in the vase from
t = -1/n up t but not including t = -1/(n+1), lim Sn, if it can be sow
to exist, is the set of balls in the vase after all the t_N, n in N, are
past and t >= 0..
>
> > A check of his original unsnipped post confirms he was not talking about
> > that sequence, but about a set limit. So why quote it here in reference to
> > the sequence? The answer is clear: because you are dishonest.

>
> Are you sure?

Yup!
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