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kirby urner

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Re: Who Are The Education Mafia
Posted: Sep 9, 2012 12:50 AM
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On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Haim <hpipik@netzero.com> wrote:

<< snip >>

>>I used to work in Rockefeller Center in downtown
>>Manhattan for McGraw-Hill. Isn't that kind of close to
>>Wall Street, even financially?

>
> Not by NYC standards,
> http://bigthink.com/strange-maps/72-the-world-as-seen-from-new-yorks-9th-avenue
> In the NYC cosmology, Rockefeller Center is in midtown, which is a world apart from downtown (downtown is congruent to "Wall Street").
>


You're right, I don't know all the ins and outs of NYC all that well.

When I went to meet Arthur Siegel of PyGeo fame
(http://pygeo.sourceforge.net/) he said we were in some "financial
district" yet this was near the old Pan Am building (I seem to
remember we toured his office).

Anyway, Wall Street is quite far away from the Pan Am building, I know
that, much closer to Jersey City, where I'd lived prior to the
Rockefeller Center chapter when I commuted in from Brooklyn where I
was living in cramped quarters with Ray Simon, author of this book:
http://www.mischiefmarketing.com/mm2a.html (he helped get me the
McGraw-Hill gig).

When I lived near Journal Square in Jersey City, that's when I was
a high school math teacher, with a minor in other subjects.

>>Isn't public education a big business? Isn't the private
>>sector hugely invested in the future of public
>>education? Look at Texas Instruments.

>
> Geez guy! That's what I have been trying to tell you for 10 yrs! As I have stated many times, I tend to focus on the ideologues (ed school professoriate) and the unions, but there are many, many other fingers in the education pie. There are a whole lot of people out there with vested interests in public education as it currently exists. They make a lot of money off it, and they like things just the way they are, and they are going to resist change, if only through sheer inertia, of which there is an enormous amount.
>
> Haim
> Shovel ready? What shovel ready?


Well OK, we agree that there's huge inertia associated with the status quo.

As you will recall, my difficulty with the Education Mafia has never
been to disbelieve in its existence, but to confine it as a
phenomenon, as it's soooo big as to be synonymous with the current
civilization.

But that's because I can't see where said Mafia ends and where
Eisenhower's Military-Industrial and/or Prison-Infotainment complex or
whatever we call it begins. It's just a big fat psychological complex
like smog over LA. People breath it and don't notice. It's the
status quo after all. Try talking to fish about water.

But then you seem to think it's the creation of the socialist left
whereas I'm more inclined just to call it "the idiocracy" and agree
that it's mediocre and that the wages of sin are death etc. etc. But
is this news? Humans, a fallen species? Who us? I hear angels
snickering, Satan saying "I told you so" but that's been going on for
some millennia.

Were you expecting a Messiah? Waiting for superman?

Kirby


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