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Topic: Re: Casualty of the Math Wars
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Robert Hansen

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Re: Casualty of the Math Wars
Posted: Oct 16, 2012 4:32 AM
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On Oct 15, 2012, at 8:54 PM, Haim <> wrote:

> Although, honestly, I am sorry to say that to you because I think you do understand. It is the rest of our friends on the right side of the debate who seem incapable of reaching the ineluctable conclusion: we cannot win this war.

They play a different war, this is true. You accuse them of publishing "grossly exaggerated" results and they accuse you of "academic disagreement". But, let's keep this in perspective. As much as you might want a crusade, I don't think that is possible under any circumstances. History does not bode well for crusades, which tells me that there is a fundamental flaw in the very notion. And who needs them anyways?

I am quite content to keep them in check by pointing out their lack of honesty and method. These poor bastards are pandering to social elements, not mathematics. I grant you, they eek a living out of their pandering, much like a reverend does with their flock. They are like creationists. Zealots full of ideology, void of fact or logic. How they got into mathematics is for another book I guess.

At times (like you) I think of storming their castles and shaming the whole lot of them, but then I remember history, the crusades, and realize that this is not possible. Remember what I said before about people, economy and weather. If you try to control economy such that there is no weather, no variation, what happens? Disaster, right? I think the same thing applies here. The Hakes and Boalers are part of the weather, albeit, the bad part. I am content with staying in good weather and pointing out the bad. These poor bastards have been struggling for 40 years and they will struggle for another 40 years. I suspect that eventually they will move on to something other than mathematics, cause it really isn't working out for them here. But I don't suspect they will change their ways.

Bob Hansen

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