Drexel dragonThe Math ForumDonate to the Math Forum



Search All of the Math Forum:

Views expressed in these public forums are not endorsed by Drexel University or The Math Forum.


Math Forum » Discussions » Education » math-teach

Topic: Re: Casualty of the Math Wars
Replies: 1   Last Post: Oct 17, 2012 5:16 AM

Advanced Search

Back to Topic List Back to Topic List Jump to Tree View Jump to Tree View   Messages: [ Previous | Next ]
Robert Hansen

Posts: 8,266
From: Florida
Registered: 6/22/09
Re: Casualty of the Math Wars
Posted: Oct 17, 2012 5:16 AM
  Click to see the message monospaced in plain text Plain Text   Click to reply to this topic Reply
att1.html (1.9 K)


On Oct 16, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Haim <hpipik@netzero.com> wrote:

> Exaggeration? Oh, no. We accuse them of fraud and they defame us. Exaggeration would be if scores improved 3% and they claim an improvement of 8%. Fraud is when they measure and report their own results, and actively sabotage efforts at independent assessment (you would almost think they have something to hide).

That was kind of my point. In the Milgram/Bishop paper, the words were "grossly exaggerated". You or I would have just said "fraud". If you said that my results were grossly exaggerated I would do one of two things...

1. Prove that they aren't.
2. Concede (with a good reason I hope, like a mistake in my analysis).

Education research is an ugly beast. In scientific research, you are after truth. You start with an hypothesis and the design and purpose of your experiment is to TEST that hypothesis. Whether your hypothesis turns out to be right or wrong, you win. In education research, you start with an hypothesis and the design and purpose of your experiment is to PROVE it.

Bob Hansen



Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in this topic.

[Privacy Policy] [Terms of Use]

© Drexel University 1994-2014. All Rights Reserved.
The Math Forum is a research and educational enterprise of the Drexel University School of Education.