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kirby urner

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Re: Speachless In New York (or, another OMG moment)
Posted: Oct 22, 2012 11:52 PM
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On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Haim <hpipik@netzero.com> wrote:

> Kirby Urner Posted: Oct 22, 2012 1:18 PM
> >
> >I'd like to analyze your sense of outrage a bit more
> >here.

>
> Kirby,
>
> You do not have to work so hard at this. You can just ask me, and I
> will glad to tell you. I am outraged that the Education Mafia have a shred
> of credibility left. I am outraged that they do not have the decency to
> resign en masse.
>
>
>From your analysis, they seem to be at some apex of power these days i.e.

they've scored many victories and are in no mood to admit defeat.

I understand why you wish they would wave the white flag. You see through
their defenses to their naked emperor at the core, some poor slob who just
doesn't get it and never will. Yet the ruse is transparent, for those with
the eyes to see.




> By their own words and deeds, as reported by the Gray Lady, the
> Education Mafia debunked one of their own cherished theories of education,
> long held and widely practiced. A theory of education that damned
> generations of children to stunted educations and sabotaged futures. And
> did I mention the cost? It was done at enormous public expense. Without
> even the hint of an apology, the Education Mafia are now implementing
> practices exactly the opposite of what they formerly touted as the key to a
> modern education.
>


I'm fine with this rhetoric. I don't know if you recall, but I've posited
a more west coasty Education Yakuza, a more Asia-flavored gang, or gang
alliance, somewhat competing with your gang of bosses. E.g. you posit DC,
with its NEA and Department of Education as a nexus, NSF likely implicated
as well (and NPR). I tend to think DC opted out of most debates that
matter some time ago. It's not an education capital, it's a political
capital, and is currently run by the Beltway Junta, a somewhat business
plotty complex that loves to build its towers near airports.


>
> Again, how can anybody with more than two brain cells in his head
> possibly take these people seriously? And it is all right there in the NY
> Times! At times like this I despair.
>


What's your thinking about IBM?

You sometimes like to underline your Jewish heritage (a proud one to be
sure) and you may be familiar with how Ford Motor sometimes comes under
fire, for Old Henry's going-off-the-deep-end for a spell. For awhile there
he was completely flipped out, believing the protocols nonsense, the world
banking conspiracy. He wrote screeds in his own newspaper. There was no
stopping the man, though falling profits may eventually be what got his
attention.

Hitler was really happy with this new ally (said so publicly), a friend in
the engine business. But this romance didn't last. Old Henry snapped out
of it.

But there's still some question about the sales force behind those
Hollerith machines, those tabulators. Keeping tabs by race / creed, a
census, used to target and color code some minorities: IBM was a big help
with that. You say the Nazis were socialists (says so right on the label),
but that doesn't keep them from being cozy with Corporate Welfare (the
fascist pattern).

Currently, you'll find there are ongoing boycotts of Hewlett-Packard,
Motorola and even Caterpillar for their role supplying technology to census
takers and discriminators (sorters on race and creed).

Should high schools teach any of this history do you think? Or are you one
of those "don't run until you can walk" type coaches, and then we hardly
get around to walking?

No, I think your standards are higher than that. You believe in studying
history, the history of mathematics included. What has been the evolution,
since Quadrivium + Trivium? You're open to DVDs on that topic, screening
them in school auditoria (yes?).

Like, you want them to know about Stalin and those Reds.

I agree.

I've got lots on the U2 in my blogs, just because it's an interesting
window into history. You can learn a lot from that story, others like it.
And there's physics involved. The memoranda do not really assert "shot
down", that was journalistic spin maybe. Gary was in good shape.

Yes, I appear to stray off topic, but we're talking about using a flagship
of Corporate America (IBM) as our newest Golden Calf (object of
genuflection), and you're like "it's about time! How can these Mafia be
taken seriously, as Only Now are they finally worshiping at the altar of
Big Business".

Is that really the altar we want them at? You're happy with bowing to this
Mecca? Do you even see why I'm asking?

Kirby


> Haim
> No representation without taxation.
>



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