What really is amazing is the percentage of their students, especially those at Caltech, who have 780+ SAT Math and BC Calculus with a 5.
At 05:18 PM 10/22/2012, Haim wrote: >Dave L. Renfro Posted: Oct 22, 2012 2:06 PM > > >I too am rather amazed, but not because they're > >essentially precalculus level, but because the > >difficulty level doesn't seem to exceed what shows up on > >average level precalculus tests. > > OK, Dave, so you are amazed and Bob is amazed and we are all > amazed. Let's draw an inference. Let me suggest one. > > About a dozen years ago, I heard Barry Simon >http://www.math.caltech.edu/people/simon.html >(scroll down the page for a lovely picture of Simon's one-two punch) >retired chairman of the math dept at Caltech. He said, at that >time, that Caltech recently had to re-organize their calculus >curriculum. He strenuously insisted that the incoming freshmen were >as bright as ever, but their mathematical preparation had degraded >significantly. > > Clearly, what we are seeing at MIT is all of a piece with > Caltech's experience and the experience of others. For instance, I > heard several years ago that national laboratories have had trouble > filling math and science positions because those positions require > high skills AND US citizenship. Perhaps the laboratories have > implemented accommodations since then. If so, I can only wonder > what they are. > > Maybe Paul should send Simon and MIT and the national > laboratories a few citations to straighten them out. > >Haim >No representation without taxation.