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Research - Response To Greeno

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Richard Hake

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[math-learn] Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine Scientific
Research - Response To Greeno

Posted: Nov 7, 2012 6:36 PM
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Some subscribers to Math-Learn might be interested in a recent post
"Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine Scientific Research
- Response To Greeno" [Hake (2012)]. The abstract reads:

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ABSTRACT: In response to "Math Education Research Doesn't Exist?
Response to Schremmer" [Hake (2012a) at <http://bit.ly/U7dJi3>, Clyde
Greeno at <http://bit.ly/RW0fFF> wrote that his statement that the
six principles that, according to "Scientific Research in Education"
at <http://bit.ly/VjrQaV>, p. 2: "underlie all scientific inquiry
(including educational research)" are "glibly superficial and badly
unknowing about the nature of science" was simply an observation that
those six principles in no way *suffice* as criteria (i.e., are both
necessary and sufficient) for distinguishing scientific from
non-scientific educational research.

Greeno wrote "Tragically, much of educational research now can use
the NRC report as a basis for so polluting the name of 'scientific
educational research' that distinguishing genuine scientific research
from the rest will be a very cumbersome task."

I wonder if Greeno would consider assisting the math community in
"distinguishing genuine scientific research from the rest" by setting
forth his own *necessary and sufficient* conditions for "genuine
scientific research"?

BTW, I attempted to address the two crucial questions: (a) "Can
Education Research Be 'Scientific'?" and (b) "What's 'Scientific'?"
in a 75 kB post "Can Education Research Be 'Scientific'? What's
'Scientific'?" [Hake (2012b)] at <http://bit.ly/Ujaogk> containing
over 100 references and over 180 hot-linked URL's, but, as far as I
know, no *substantive* responses were forthcoming.
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To access the complete 8 kB post please click on <http://bit.ly/Qp3H0w>.

Richard Hake, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Indiana University
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REFERENCES [URL shortened by <http://bit.ly/> and accessed on 07 Nov 2012.]
Hake, R.R. 2012. "Necessary and Sufficient Conditions For Genuine
Scientific Research - Response To Greeno" online on the OPEN! AERA-L
archives at <http://bit.ly/Qp3H0w>. Post of 7 Nov 2012 13:49:33-0800
to AERA-L and Net-Gold. The abstract and link to the complete post
are being transmitted to several discussion lists and are also on my
blog "Hake'sEdStuff" at <http://bit.ly/Qp8fnA> with a provision for
comments.


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