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Re: A new math usenet group
Posted:
Dec 7, 2012 5:18 AM
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In article <4hq4b8t44ao74jc41fu2pc6okagns3md27@4ax.com>,
quasi <quasi@null.set> wrote:
> Tonico wrote:
> >quasi wrote:
> >>amzoti wrote:
> >>
> >>>Leave the cesspool that is sci.math.
> >>
> >> Sorry you see it that way.
> >>
> >>>See a real math newsgroup.
> >>
> >>>http://math.stackexchange.com/questions
> >>
> >> math.stackexchange is _not_ a newsgroup.
> >>
> >> It's fine for what it is -- questions and answers, but
> >>
> >> not much good for back and forth discussions -- it's
> >>
> >> not designed for that.
> >
> >Almost agree with that. As it is now, sci.math is a dumper where
> >many of us come to have a little fun, to let steam out, etc.
>
> Sure, you can have fun here if you want to -- nothing wrong with
> that, but of the non-crank, non-troll sci.math participants (of
> which I would estimate that there are currently about 40 regulars
> and perhaps 100 or more less regulars), most do not participate
> in the mode you describe.
>
> >It doesn't serve almost for mathematics,
>
> I disagree.
>
> Math _is_ done here, and sci.math's free-form, multi-way
> discussion format makes the interaction very easy.
>
> >but only for trolls, cranks, or any other bored cyberscum (WM,
> >Archimedes P., Musatov, Herc = Cooper, Julio, etc.) to live
> >without any fear of being kicked out at once.
>
> Cranks and trolls are no big deal -- they are easily ignored.
>
> >These poor characters wouldn't remain active more than a few
> >minutes in SE, Physics Forum or any other more or less serious
> >site, and they'd have to dedicate their lives to make up new
> >nicks and to have several IP numbers in order to avoid complete
> >eviction.
>
> sci.math has free speech, so yes, cranks and trolls are part of
> the environment, but as I said, it's no big deal -- that stuff
> is easily ignored. It's a small price to pay for the luxury of
> true free speech.
>
> >Nevertheless, it'd be nice to have a site that, besides maths,
> >could accept open discussions,
>
> It exists -- it's called sci.math.
>
> >as long as the people involved in them are minimally serious.
>
> In a democratic environment, you can't have everything go the
> way you want.
>
> >Too bad the intentions of 3-4 years ago to have such a
> >moderated site here didn't work out...
>
> In the end, the moderated site concept fails precisely because
> of the moderation. It would create a barrier to entry, slow
> down the interaction, and leave an anti-democratic stigma of
> censors and censorship.
Exactly.
How to extend liberty to all
while moderating one's own excesses?
"But it isn't faaaiiiirr!"
Suck it up. Be a man.
--
Michael Press
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