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Re: Mathematics in brief
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Dec 9, 2012 4:16 PM
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On 9 Dez., 20:47, Zuhair <zaljo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 9, 9:45 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote: > > > > > You believe in undefinable numbers. But what should that belief be > > good for??? We can believe anything we like of undefinable numbers > > like of unicorns. > > No you cannot of course. If you are working within the intended model > of say Z, then you cannot believe for example that there are finitely > many undefinable numbers, nor you can believe that there are countably > many of them, also just because there is no parameter free finitary > formula after which a number is defined this doesn't mean that you > lose the known properties of the reals like trichotomy, total > ordering, etc...
If you don't know what x is, because x is completely undefined, then you cannot know whether x is positive or negative. Hence there is no trichotomy with respect to 0. Further you cannot know where x lies in the order.
Regrads, WM
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