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Topic: Simple random number generator?
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 David Bernier Posts: 3,892 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Simple random number generator?
Posted: Dec 18, 2012 5:16 PM

On 12/16/2012 06:43 PM, Michael Press wrote:
> In article<slrnkcsl5f.3ro.hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu>,
> Herman Rubin<hrubin@skew.stat.purdue.edu> wrote:
>

>> On 2012-12-15, Michael Press<rubrum@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>> In article<OjcVDZPLshyQFw5g@invalid.uk.co.demon.merlyn.invalid>,
>>> Dr J R Stockton<reply1250@merlyn.demon.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>>
>>>> In sci.math message<rubrum-471E53.18462311122012@news.albasani.net>,
>>>> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:46:23, Michael Press<rubrum@pacbell.net> posted:

>>
>>

>>>>> I do not see how quantum effects can be used to generate
>>>>> random sequences.

>>
>>>> Radioactive decay is due to quantum effects, and there is a fixed
>>>> probability for each atom to decay in the next time interval.

>>
>>> From what does the unpredictability of radioactive decay arise?
>>
>> From the assumption that the atoms decay in a random manner. This
>> gives unpredictability. The other quantum assumptions say that
>> the decays of the various atoms are independent, and that the
>> decay is at an exponential rate.
>>
>> The msin assumption in this is that the probability that an
>> atom which has not decayed by time T will still have a probability
>> of decay between T and U which is independent of anything which has
>> happened before time T, and only depends on U-T.

>
> I am asking for the basis of the unpredictability
> in physical theory. Assuming it is random is to
> beg the question.
>
> I hold that the wave theory of matter does not
> predict random occurrences.
>

Each particle has a ghost controlling it in a pseudo-random
manner based on the base 2 expansion of Pi. But we will
never be able to show that.

Date Subject Author
11/27/12 Ben Bacarisse
11/27/12 Existential Angst
12/11/12 Michael Press
12/13/12 Dr J R Stockton
12/14/12 Michael Press
12/16/12 Dr J R Stockton
12/16/12 Herman Rubin
12/16/12 Michael Press
12/17/12 Dr J R Stockton
12/18/12 Wally W.
1/7/13 Michael Stemper
12/20/12 Michael Press
12/18/12 David Bernier
12/18/12 Phil Carmody
12/20/12 Michael Press
12/20/12 David Bernier
12/20/12 Brian Q. Hutchings
12/20/12 Brian Q. Hutchings
12/25/12 Phil Carmody
12/25/12 Wally W.
12/25/12 Virgil
12/25/12 Wally W.
12/26/12 Dr J R Stockton
12/20/12 Dr J R Stockton