On Jan 6, 7:37 am, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote: > On 1/6/2013 1:42 AM, Virgil wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In article <x96dnZCwBZhAtXTNnZ2dnUVZ_uSdn...@giganews.com>, > > fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote: > > >> On 1/6/2013 12:20 AM, Virgil wrote: > >>> In article <44CdnXjhda1zcHXNnZ2dnUVZ_omdn...@giganews.com>, > >>> fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote: > > >>>> On 1/5/2013 4:32 PM, Virgil wrote: > >>>>> But mathematics is NOT a science. Its truths and values are in no way > >>>>> dependent on physical experimentation or scientific observations of the > >>>>> physical world > > >>>> I would actually disagree with this. The meaning of the > >>>> word "science" changed significantly in the nineteenth > >>>> century as "scientist" became a profession. > > >>> Science is ultimately concerned with the behavior of the physical world. > >>> Mathematics limits itself to a certain aspects of the mental world. > >>> As Einstein remarked: > >>> "As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they > >>> are not certain; and as far as they are certain, they > >>> do not refer to reality." ~Albert Einstein. > > >> Science is concerned with objective > >> knowledge. > > >> Physicalism need not be materialistic. > > >> Einstein was a Kantian. Check at plato.stanford.edu. > > >> That quote need not be interpreted the way you > >> intend it to be interpreted. > > > No quote need be interpreted the way its quoter intended. > > Quite true.
Clemens' law of conservation of greath truths: "for each Great Truth, there's an equal and opposite Great Truth." Einstein: "God doesn't play dice." Also, "I believe in Spinoza's God, Who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a God Who concerns Himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.", then, "I believe that whatever we do or live for has its causality; it is good, however, that we cannot see through to it."