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Topic: ZFC really really really sucks -- really!
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David Petry

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Re: ZFC really really really sucks -- really!
Posted: Jan 7, 2013 4:43 PM
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I just realized that Robin Chapman, wonderful guy that he is, changed the subject line. So I'm reposting this with the original subject line.

On Monday, January 7, 2013 12:48:59 PM UTC-8, david petry wrote:
> On Monday, January 7, 2013 6:49:29 AM UTC-8, Robin wrote:

> > On 07/01/2013 13:50, david petry ranted:

> > > The notion of falsifiability, which is the cornerstone of science,
> > > can be formalized in such a way that it can be made the cornerstone
> > > of mathematics, and it is eminently reasonable to do so; if we don't
> > > accept falsifiability as part of the underlying logic of our
> > > mathematics,

> > Falsifiability, in the guise of reductio ad absurdum
> > *is* a principle of mathematics.

> When in doubt, use Wikipedia.

> > As no contradiction
> > in ZFC has been found, we can continue to work within it

> Certainly you can continue to play the game of ZFC.

> > > then our mathematics is deficient as a language for
> > > science.

> > It is not the purpose of mathematics to be a "logic for science".

> Really? Give me a clue here. What *serious* purpose does mathematics have other than to serve as a formalization of our understanding of quantitative reasoning.

> > > ZFC is crackpot mathematics.

> > Please provide a contradiction in ZFC, or else hold your peace.

> Platonism is not a universally accepted principle.

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