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Michael Paul Goldenberg

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Re: Update about "The community of mathematics educators: Join in
defending fun

Posted: Jan 10, 2013 10:38 AM
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So please demand to see the data from the study I worked on in the early 1990s. I will then contact the National Science Foundation and request the non-disclosure forms the researchers signed, guaranteeing anonymity to the participants and the school/district.

You can then take matters up with the NSF, and the various organizations (including the officers in charge at the University of Michigan) on why they insist on anonymity for human subject research.

I'm not sure, but it's possible that some people with foresight anticipated the sort of harassment of researchers and participants that are at the center of the Boaler complaints against Messrs. Bishop and Milgram and made non-disclosure a requirement for all human subject research. Ironically, a major cause for serious revising of human subject research was the work of another Milgram, Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram. Perhaps you've heard of him?

Regardless, the hysteria on this list surrounding Boaler's work is particularly interesting. One might think that the world of mathematics teaching (at least the world comprising the United States of America) had been set on its ear by Boaler's work. In other words, as a result of her research, dramatic, wholesale changes in math teaching practices took place on a wide basis. And yet, working as I do with schools, teachers, and students in all grade bands other than pre-K and early el, I see almost nothing but traditional mathematics instruction: teacher-centered, with lots and lots of direct instruction, and perhaps an occasional smattering of some of the practices that our intrepid Math Warriors find so objectionable: small group work, hands-on investigations, "real-world" problem-solving, "discovery" learning, and the like. Oh, and calculators and other technologies (including, shockingly, pencil and paper - which do comprise technology). But I don't believe that MC/HOLD !
and friends have yet accused Jo Boaler of being responsible for the use of calculators in school mathematics, the key word there being "yet."

So why the hysteria? Why the villagers with torches and pitchforks swarming around Boaler's work? If I didn't know better, I'd think certain people were engaged in a vendetta that is both personal and ideological.

I also wonder why these same bloodhounds are at rest regarding research results that fit their personal philosophies of education. I can't recall a similar investigation on the part of either these two academics or any of their like-minded colleagues into research results surrounding the Direct Instruction projects connected with Doug Carnine & company at the University of Oregon. Why does DI get a free pass? Don't you wonder about that, Robert? Or don't you think about things that you don't think about?


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1/9/13
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/9/13
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Robert Hansen
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
1/9/13
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GS Chandy
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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Robert Hansen
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Louis Talman
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Robert Hansen
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GS Chandy
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GS Chandy
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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GS Chandy
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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Louis Talman
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GS Chandy
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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kirby urner
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GS Chandy
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Robert Hansen
1/17/13
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GS Chandy
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Robert Hansen
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GS Chandy
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