On Jan 10, 6:18 am, benj <b...@iwaynet.net> wrote: > On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 23:33:28 -0800, Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> > It's called "politics", Archie.
Do not overlook the intrusion of religion in Neanderthal research.
Mistakes of logic by Svante Paabo and Ed Green #187 Rockthrowing theory book
Now I was looking for the transcript because I remember there was a third scientist involved and confused with logical reasoning. The third scientist layed out some red beads on the geography table and piled the beads up in Tuscany Italy saying that the Tuscany is the hotbed of Neanderthal and Homo sapiens interbreeding.
Now the logical flaws of Paabo and Green are very evident in that they focused on just one gene FOXP2 and when they found the gene identical in Sapiens and Neanderthal, they could no longer support their pet belief that the difference between the two species was communication, that the Neanderthal did not have a robust communication.
So then, what does Paabo and Green do? Well, they then go on a interbreeding escapade for the Neanderthals with the Sapiens.
Trouble is that, earlier Paabo had shown the world audience that Neanderthal was a different species than Sapiens, but now, here that FOXP2 was not changed, Paabo with Green go on an interbreeding binge.
So how can biology scientists of Paabo and Green one year claim different species and when their pet theory falls apart, they then embrace the contradiction of interbreeding, yet they are different species.
So the importance of what the third scientist (was it Hawks?) the one that showed red beads piled on Tuscany Italy. The importance of that, is that the genes proffered as different from sapiens genes and different from African genes, is that Paabo, Green, and Hawks (if it was Hawks since the transcript is not available). The trouble with their silly assertion that those were Neanderthal interbreeding genes, is that the obvious is more likely to have happened. That in the long years of Africans moving north into Neanderthal territory, that some of those groups or tribes developed mutations in those 10,000 years which was located near Tuscany Italy and that those mutations are what we now see as different from the African homo sapiens.
So the mistake of Paabo and Green and (Hawks if it was Hawks) is that they are thinking those genetic changes were due to Neanderthal interbreeding when in all likely hood, those new genes were mutations of the Homo sapiens around Tuscany and not due to any Neanderthal interbreeding.
But the biggest and gravest mistake of Paabo and Green is that once they realized FOXP2 was identical in Neanderthal and Sapiens, they should have dropped their silly and stupid theory of communication and focused on the major important gene-- HACNS1 which directs the ability of rock throwing.
Noonan is a better qualified scientist than is Paabo or Green to speak about Neanderthal in future NOVA shows.
Perhaps people do not like to be told that our ancestors were horrible and merciless killers of another species, and how they mercilessly stone thrown to death the Neanderthals. People of religion probably do not like the idea that what made us human was killing of other animals by means of throwing rocks and stones. People like Paabo and others want to sanitize and cleanse the ancestors of humans as communication species, but that is not science, that is not the truth and not what happened. What did happen was that an ape, some 8 to 10 million years ago started throwing rocks and stones that conferred superb advantage to that individual in killing rivals, in killing food and having more mates and more offspring.
Give the job of spokesman for the next NOVA on Neanderthal, give that to Noonan to be the lead researcher for we need to know about HACNS1, not the pathetic FOXP2.
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