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Greg Goodknight

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Re: Update about "The community of mathematics educators: Join in
defending fun

Posted: Jan 16, 2013 1:46 PM
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Mike, it's simple. Boaler hid the identities of the schools to protect
her research results, not the privacy of students. It was found out
because the likes of Bishop, Milgram and Clopton, suspecting the
research was rife with error, went looking for the base data, and the
scrutiny was justified.

I don't see anyone complaining their privacy was invaded by their
efforts, besides perhaps Ms.Boaler, who didn't appreciate the extra
attention given her work.

- -Greg




On 01/14/2013 07:21 PM, Michael Paul Goldenberg wrote:
> Some day, Robert, it MAY occur to you that the protocols for a physics or chemistry experiment and those of the social sciences are, by the very natures of the various disciplines involved, inherently quite different and always will be.
>
> Of course, honest critics of Boaler's work would admit that they don't have their own experiments upon which to justify the grandfathered methods of mathematics education they prefer. Instead, they shape their views based on personal experience (generally not too reliable when you're, say, one of the tiny percentage of humans who earn a Ph.D in mathematics or one of the physical sciences or an advanced degree in engineering or computer science) and politics (not the most reliable basis for judging fairly someone's practice from close up, let alone afar). There's no way you or several others here can claim that you look at Boaler's work with anything extreme prejudice against her and/or her ideas. In advance of any data of any kind, you're determined that her work can't possibly have helped anyone. Hence, the rules of the game will be changed at will to determine (by you) whether she's been successful. If it turns out that she has, then she must have been cheating. It's tha!

t !
>
>
> simple.
>
> Meanwhile, the amount of time and energy you expend flapping your gums about Boaler to an approximate audience of 6 to 10, most of them like-minded educational conservatives, is remarkable. What it is not is in any way constructive. No one, least of all school kids, benefits.



Date Subject Author
1/9/13
Read Update about "The community of mathematics educators: Join in
defending fun
Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/9/13
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Robert Hansen
1/9/13
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defending fun
Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
1/9/13
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GS Chandy
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
1/10/13
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
1/14/13
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Louis Talman
1/14/13
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Robert Hansen
1/10/13
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GS Chandy
1/10/13
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Robert Hansen
1/10/13
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GS Chandy
1/10/13
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/10/13
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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Robert Hansen
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GS Chandy
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/11/13
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Robert Hansen
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Haim
1/11/13
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GS Chandy
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/15/13
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Robert Hansen
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Louis Talman
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Robert Hansen
1/16/13
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Greg Goodknight
1/15/13
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
1/15/13
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Robert Hansen
1/16/13
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Louis Talman
1/16/13
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Robert Hansen
1/16/13
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GS Chandy
1/16/13
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Robert Hansen
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Michael Paul Goldenberg
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kirby urner
1/17/13
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GS Chandy
1/17/13
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Robert Hansen
1/17/13
Read Re: Update about "The community of mathematics educators: Join in defending fun
GS Chandy
1/17/13
Read Re: Update about "The community of mathematics educators: Join in defending fun
Robert Hansen
1/17/13
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GS Chandy
1/17/13
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Robert Hansen

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