> NOVA's Ice Age Death Trap of Snowmass Colorado. > > I posted some long time ago how the interpretation of > these > scientist's was awfully bad.
Yes, and the links you gave to some Wikipedia pages are irrefutable proof of that. And the YouTube videos: wonderful evidence on your part, asshole.
Maybe NOVA can only film > scientists these > days provided the scientist is free to make any zany > conclusions.
But, unlike you, they have degrees, and :
THEY DO ACTUAL EXPERIMENTS. You do not, OTOH, just link to pages and you refer to 20-year-old textbooks > > On last week's NOVA of Decoding Neanderthals, they > announced that the > first modern humans to enter Europe from Africa was > 60,000 years ago, > and here, Daniel Fisher is speculating that a > mastodon fossil with a > few scratches is due to ancient human meat cache in a > lake some 45,000 > years ago. So in last week's NOVA, they had humans > coming out of > Africa into Europe to battle Neanderthals some 60,000 > years ago and > then showing up in North America for Daniel Fisher to > make meat caches > in a Colorado Lake. According to my math, that would > give those > traveling African Homo sapiens just 15,000 years to > get across the > Atlantic Ocean and out to Colorado to make meat > caches. > > Can you see why I belittle NOVA for not having a > "editor of logic"? > Because if you allow scientists like Daniel Fisher to > waffle on about > their pathetic speculations, NOVA may as well host Ed > Conrad with his > "man as old as the Devonian coal theory". > > Most scientists are not required to take a course in > logic when in > school, and that is a pitiful shame and it shows on > NOVA programs that > most scientists are very weak in logic. Let me > enumerate many errors > of logic of this particular show: > > 1) Occam's Razor says the easiest solution is usually > the true > solution. You have an alpine lake which probably was > dammed up by > beavers or beaver like creatures and the water is > frozen in winter > time. Much like what Jackson Lake in Grand Tetons at > the dam usually > has about 3 or 4 or 5 moose fall into the thin ice > near the dam in > winter and drown. So Occam's Razor would say the > easiest solution is a > frozen lake and thin ice and entire groups of > mastodons breaking the > ice and falling in. > > 2) Now Dan Fisher is worried that there are no > predator bones, only > mastodons, giant sloths, and a few prehistoric bison. > Just like at > Jackson Dam there are only moose fallen in, no bears > since they are > hibernating and no predators for they could probably > swim and climb > out. > > 3) Now Dan finds a few bones at another site of the > lake that is > surrounded with boulders that appear out of place. > Well, in natural > lakes, some years they have flooding from mountain > streams and those > boulders fit the profile of those 1 in a 1,000 year > flooding stream > carrying boulders. Instead, Dan does not like natural > explanations and > so he imagines 45,000 years ago that Homo sapiens had > been there. > Another possible explanation is that there used to > live giant beavers, > whether in North America, I am not sure, and whether > a giant beaver > could have rolled a large boulder to his dam > construction. > > 4) Dan sees some markings on a mastodon bone and > ascribes that to man > with a meat cache in the lake water. Someone with > commonsense would > ascribe the situation of boulders among bones as the > boulders tumbled > over the bones that they would leave a mark on the > bones. Or to the > frozen bones with ice making the marks. > > 5) Science and Hollywood imagination is not usually > compatible, but > Dan seems to prefer the glitz and glammor of > Hollywood rather than the > need for science to "get it correct". I speak of the > silly theory of > "Shake and Kill followed by Shake and Bury" proposed > by Daniel Fisher > and demonstrated by Eugene Schwieg and Kirk Johnson. > I am guessing > that they came up with this theory because the plain > truth of a frozen > lake and animals falling in and drowning is not > Hollywood glitzy > enough. Perhaps being a Colorado Museum director > requires glitz and > glammor to allure the crowds rather than the honest > science truth of > what happened. Why were those bones not showing > evidence of predators > eating them while stuck in the mud or sand? The > answer is that they > were never stuck, and Earthquake Liquefaction never > killed them, but > rather the lake was frozen over and when you have too > many mastodon on > the ice they break it, fall in and drown and there > are no evidence of > predation. > > 6) Since the last time I saw this NOVA show, a year > ago, maybe longer, > they reported some new findings. Fisher had the > mastodon tusks > analyzed for when they died at Snowmass and not to my > surprise it was > between winter and spring season that these animals > died. Further > supporting the idea that they simply fell through the > ice. > > It is my opinion that if NOVA continues to show > science shows where > they fail miserably in logic, that the best > scientists will begin to > refuse to be on a NOVA show, because the quality of > NOVA is no quality > at all, but just the fanning of silly opinions and > speculation. > > -- > Google's archives are top-heavy in hate-spew from > search-engine- > bombing. Only Drexel's Math Forum has done a > excellent, simple and > fair archiving of AP posts for the past 15 years as > seen here: > > http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986 > > Archimedes Plutonium > http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies