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Re: Matheology § 203
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Jan 31, 2013 4:23 AM
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On 31 Jan., 10:04, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 31, 9:48 am, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote: > > > > > > > On 30 Jan., 22:38, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 30, 10:24 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote: > > > > > On 30 Jan., 22:14, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Jan 30, 6:06 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote: > > > > > > > On 30 Jan., 12:32, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 30, 12:21 pm, WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 30 Jan., 12:02, William Hughes <wpihug...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Summary. We have agreed that > > > > > > > > > > For a potentially infinite list L, the > > > > > > > > > antidiagonal of L is not a line of L. > > > > > > > > Do you agree with the statement > > > > > > > > For a potentially infinite list, L, > > > > > > > of potentially infinite 0/1 sequences > > > > > > > the antidiagonal of L is not a line > > > > > > > of L > > > > > > > Yes, of course. We have a collection of which we can keep a general > > > > > > overview. And in finite sets (potential infinity is nothing but finity > > > > > > without an upper threshold) "for every" means the same as "for all". > > > > > > There is no place to hide. > > > > > > So now we have > > > > > > For a potentially infinite list, L, > > > > > of potentially infinite 0/1 sequences > > > > > the antidiagonal of L is not a line > > > > > of L > > > > > > Can a potentially infinite list, L, > > > > > of potentially infinite 0/1 sequences > > > > > have the property that every > > > > > potentially infinite 0/1 sequence > > > > > is a line of L? > > > > > Potential infinity is the opposite of completeness like "infinite" is > > > > the opposite of "finished". So *every* line number n would not imply > > > > *all* possible line numbers of the set |N defined by AxInf. > > > > This does not answer the question. Please answer the question.- > > > The question is not properly defined. > > Do you mean "every" in the potential sense of "all from 1 to n"? Or do > > you mean "every" in the sense of "all" of set theory? > > > The latter is wrong, the former is correct. > > (Note also every potentially infinite sequence only consist of finite > > initial segments.) > > Let L be the potentially infinite > list of natural numbers > > 1 > 2 > 3 > ... > > Does L have the property that > every (in the sense of "all from 1 to n") > natural number is a line of L > Yes.
Regards, WM
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