JT wrote: > > To me it seem that the naturals are discrete in nature and that zero > really not a natural number or even a number. Regarding infinity we > can not have a view of something where we do not have a full set > handwaving shouting infinity really do not help.
Zero is a natural number by definition.
-- When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting