On 1 Feb, 14:33, Frederick Williams <freddywilli...@btinternet.com> wrote: > JT wrote: > > > To me it seem that the naturals are discrete in nature and that zero > > really not a natural number or even a number. Regarding infinity we > > can not have a view of something where we do not have a full set > > handwaving shouting infinity really do not help. > > Zero is a natural number by definition. > > -- > When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by > this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. > Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting
Bananas is yellow and have a magnitude, Zero is invisible and have none. Definitions, postulate and axioms is the poor mans substitute for logic. Thus i think you had to many bananas, you can postulate anything, make false axioms, dream up negative elephants in the bathroom claim they are definitions. I do not care, they do not follow by logic.