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Topic: Which naturals better?
Replies: 41   Last Post: Feb 8, 2013 3:49 AM

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 JT Posts: 1,448 Registered: 4/7/12
Re: Which naturals better?
Posted: Feb 5, 2013 3:16 AM

On 5 Feb, 09:06, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
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>  JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > On 5 Feb, 04:30, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 4 Feb, 11:02, Frederick Williams <freddywilli...@btinternet.com>
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> > > > > Building new natural numbers without zero using NyaN, in any base,
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> > > > You seem to confuse numbers and digits.  Both of these are true:
> > > > There is a number zero.
> > > > Numbers can be symbolized without the digit zero.

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> > > > When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by
> > > > this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him.
> > > > Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting

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> > > No there is no zero in my list of naturals, in my list is each natural
> > > number a discrete ***items***, ***entity*** with a magnitude.

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> > Sorry a single natural is a single entity or item with a certain
> > magnitude, the numbers is counted in forming sets.

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> If one counts the members of sets to get natural numbers then counting
> the members of the empty set shuld give us a natural too.
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Isn't it the members forming sets, without any member how can there be
a set?
The set is just a placeholder for numbers, it is not a mathematical
entity.
Balls and buckets (bucket 1=6 balls) (bucket 2=3 balls) now i pour
over the three balls to the bucket 2 and we have nine balls in bucket
two. And you ask me what todo with the empty bucket?

Date Subject Author
2/4/13 JT
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2/5/13 JT
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2/5/13 Virgil
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2/7/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
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2/7/13 HOPEINCHRIST
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