JT
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Re: Which naturals better?
Posted:
Feb 5, 2013 4:18 AM


On 5 Feb, 09:06, Musatov <marty.musa...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 4, 11:12 pm, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 5 Feb, 07:43, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 5 Feb, 04:30, JT <jonas.thornv...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On 4 Feb, 11:02, Frederick Williams <freddywilli...@btinternet.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > JT wrote: > > > > > > > Building new natural numbers without zero using NyaN, in any base, > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > You seem to confuse numbers and digits. Both of these are true: > > > > > There is a number zero. > > > > > Numbers can be symbolized without the digit zero. > > > > > >  > > > > > When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by > > > > > this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. > > > > > Jonathan Swift: Thoughts on Various Subjects, Moral and Diverting > > > > > No there is no zero in my list of naturals, in my list is each natural > > > > number a discrete ***items***, ***entity*** with a magnitude. > > > > Sorry a single natural is a single entity or item with a certain > > > magnitude, the numbers is counted in forming sets. > > > base 10 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1)+(1,1,1,1) is the base form isn't all numbers > > but 1 identities? You just happen to knwow the concept of 7 and 4 or? > > In my math ()+(1,1,1,1) is not an evaluations you simply strike out > > the empty set. > > > When it comes to fractions you only need to know the numberic > > placeholder for precurring zeros. > > Base 3 > > 1/3=,1 > > 1/9=,(2)1 > > 1/27=,(3)1 > > 2/3=,2 > > 2/9=,(2)2 > > 2/27=,(3)2
Musatov can you help me out with the algorithm to make bases without one, i am a bit stuck. And i will probably have to start all with script if nobody can see the obvious way to change the script to reflect NyaN bases. I think i detected the problem but i am not sure howto solve it, and since there is no break in javascript my changes hangs without giving me feedback i would need a debugger line for line like old Pascal. Basicly 9 in base three encodes to 1*9+0*3+0*1= 100 but in NyaN it encodes to 2*3+3*1=23.
Example decimal 9=9 subtrahend i must divide subtrahend/bas, and now i need take subtrahendbas until decimal equals bas. But since subtrahend is set in loop by multiple and bas it gets very messy. (****i think google put in linebreaks or hidden characters you better get code below from http://www.facebook.com/jonas.thornvall <HTML> <SCRIPT language=Javascript> function anybase(bas,decimal) {
multip=0; basemultip=1; unr=0; basestr=""; subtrahend=0;
while (basemultip<decimal){ basemultip=basemultip*bas; multip=multip+1; } while (decimal>0){ unr++; set=0;
for(i=bas;i>0;i){ subtrahend=basemultip*i; document.write(subtrahend+"="+basemultip+"* (i)"+i+"<BR>"); if (decimal>=subtrahend) { document.write("decimal"+decimal+"subtra"+subtrahend); decimal=decimalsubtrahend; document.write("="+decimal+"<BR>") set=1; basestr=basestr+i+","; } }
if(set==0 && decimal!=0)basestr=basestr+0+","; basemultip=basemultip/bas;
} while (multip>=unr){ basestr=basestr+0+","; unr++; } document.write("basestr "+basestr+"<BR>");
} anybase(3,9); </SCRIPT> <HTML>

