Virgil
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Re: Matheology 203
Posted:
Feb 7, 2013 4:40 AM
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In article
<3d2ccdea-0a70-433b-9e1b-22832f97b73a@y9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
WM <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:
> On 7 Feb., 09:27, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
> > In article
> > <30e6f8dd-f487-4335-ba77-35f182b79...@e10g2000vbv.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:
> > > On 7 Feb., 08:53, Virgil <vir...@ligriv.com> wrote:
> > > > In article
> > > > <457d0429-33c1-46ad-9151-4f5d9dc96...@fv9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > > > WM <mueck...@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:
> > > > > On 7 Feb., 05:21, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > Or as Virgil would write
> >
> > > > > in a very lucid moment:
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> > > > > > What Cantor proved was that no list of accessible real numbers
> > > > > > (accessible because listable) can include all accessible numbers,
> > > > > > because any such list itself proves the existence of numbers not
> > > > > > listed.
> >
> > > > > That is, Cantor proved the countable set of accessible numbers being
> > > > > uncoutable.
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> > > > That may well be WM's misunderstanding but it is not an understanding.
> >
> > > > A number being accessible does means that it can appear in some list,
> > > > but does not at all mean that all accessible numbers can appear
> > > > together
> > > > in a single list.
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> > > All elements of countable sets can be counted by definition, i.e.,
> > > they can appear in a list.
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> > But some subsets of a set may be countable even though the set itself is
> > not.
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> Of course, the algebraic real numbers for instance, or the definable
> real numbers.
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> > Certainly SOME sets of reals can be counted but not every set of
> > reals can be counted.
>
> My question has been this: Why are there countable sets that are
> uncountable?
That is a question that only those trapped in WMytheology would ask, as
nowhere else does it make any sense.
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