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restmass derived purely from Maxwell Equations summation of ridges and troughs #1252 New Physics #1372 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed
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Re: restmass derived purely from Maxwell Equations summation of ridges and troughs #1252 New Physics #1372 ATOM TOTALITY 5th ed
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Feb 24, 2013 5:12 AM


> What I am doing here
Is dumping your offtopic stupidity . Stop!
Sci.math describes itself as:
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What gives you the right to repeatedly post offtopic, ASSHOLE?
with rest mass is not altogether > new to physics > but a continuation and elaboration of what is found > in this textbook: > > In the textbook CHEM ONE by Waser, Trueblood, > Knobler, 2nd ed., 1980, > page 307 is a picture of the > Debroglie waves for permitted and prohibited > orbitals. > > And so the idea I am pursuing is that the electron > has that ring > shaped or closed loop shaped geometry and the ridges > and troughs of E > charge and M+ or M magnetic monopoles when added up > gives restmass. > So that a M+ ridge is a 1 eV rest mass and a E ridge > is another 1 eV > rest mass and the troughs are each 1 more eV rest > mass and so the > electron in ground state sums up both ridges and > troughs of E and M+ > (perhaps M) sums to a total of > 500,000 eV restmass. The same goes for the proton of > its troughs and > ridges when summed equals 938,000,000 eV rest mass. > > Now there are a lot of kinks and issues I have to > overcome, but that > is to be expected. What I am concerned with is > getting a general > framework for the 6th edition and if I have kinks and > issues, I can > work them out in the 6th edition. > > Now I wonder if the electron wavelength has ever been > measured and how > many such ridges and troughs would exist in the > hydrogen atom electron > in ground state. So if these parameters are available > and if they come > up with say 400,000 or 500,000 or 600,000 such ridges > and troughs, it > is safe to say I conclusively discovered the meaning > of restmass. > > And if the proton in hydrogen in ground state comes > up with a number > for the ridges and troughs to be about 1,000,000,000 > then there also I > conclusively discovered the inner meaning of rest > mass. > > I think the physics literature has some sort of > numbers data of the > wavelength of the proton and electron and how many > troughs and ridges > accrues from orbitals as shown in CHEM ONE. > > Now earlier today I wrote that the proton is likely > to involve a > volume of the wave but I rather doubt that, and > suspect that the > proton wave is a surface area of a ellipsoid, not a > volume of the > ellipsoid. So that the electron is circumference of C > = pi(2r) and the > proton is surface area of S.A.= 4pi(r^2). I changed > my mind because > the Maxwell Equations are about electricity which is > a surface > phenomenon more than a solid interior phenomenon. And > the fact that > 10^9 is easier to come by from squaring 10^4 or 10^5. > > Now probably the biggest kink in the armor of this, > is likely to be > that I need to inject the plutonium atom rather than > the hydrogen atom > ground state. So that the proton ellipsoid is going > to be highly > elongated whereas the hydrogen is closer to > spherical. > > And keep in mind, the proton is the bar magnet in > Faraday's law and > the electron is the closed loop wire, so that the > electron Space of > its circle has to be far larger than the proton > surface area that is > going to be a plunging bar magnet into the electron > closed loop. Now > this maybe difficult to pull off since the electron > has only 500,000 > ridges and troughs to work with while the proton has > 938,000,000 > ridges and troughs to work with. I would be more > comfortable if the > electron had 938,000,000 ridges and troughs to build > a closed loop > wire. > > Another kink is whether only M+ resides with > electrons or whether both > M+ and M reside. > > So I have a lot of issues, but do not care so long as > I have the > correct overall general framework. The fact that the > chemistry text > has almost the identical idea, except they do not > push it further > along into making rest mass, is supporting evidence > that I am on the > correct framework. > >  > > Google's archives are topheavy in hatespew from > searchengine > bombing. Only Drexel's Math Forum has done a > excellent, simple and > fair archiving of AP posts for the past 15 years as > seen here: > > http://mathforum.org/kb/profile.jspa?userID=499986 > > Archimedes Plutonium > http://www.iw.net/~a_plutonium > whole entire Universe is just one big atom > where dots of the electrondotcloud are galaxies



