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David C. Ullrich

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Re: Maths pedagaogy
Posted: Mar 20, 2013 9:55 AM
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 19:17:03 -0500, fom <fomJUNK@nyms.net> wrote:

>On 3/19/2013 4:57 PM, David C. Ullrich wrote:
>> On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:38:20 -0700 (PDT), pepstein5@gmail.com wrote:
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>>> On Tuesday, March 19, 2013 3:26:49 PM UTC, Frederick Williams wrote:
>>>> quasi wrote:
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>>>>> Yes, but the best teachers and authors have mastered the art of
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>>>>> judging how their presentation would be seen from the point of
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>>>>> view of the prospective student.
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>>>> While the lecturer knows to whom he is lecturing, the author of a book
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>>>> doesn't necessarily know who will read it.
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>>>>

>>> This seems exactly the wrong way round. A good maths book will specify exactly what the readership is expected to know -- "prerequisites" in other words.
>>> On the other hand, the abilities and knowledge bases of a graduate and undergraduate class can vary enormously, and it is difficult (but not impossible) to find out what they know.

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>> ??? There are _official_ prerequisites for a class. A student is not
>> _allowed_ to take this class without having passed those other
>> classes. All the author of a book can do is explain what audience
>> he had in mind - he has no control over who actually reads the book.
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>> What's difficult about finding out what the students know?
>> After the first quiz in differential equations I can tell you
>> which ones know enough calculus.
>>
>> Your, erm, experience must be vastly different from mine;
>> in particular the rules and regulations at the place where
>> you teach must be very different.
>>
>> "exactly the wrong way round" indeed.
>>

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>Some, like myself, study outside of the guidance
>of curriculum committees and without the help
>of instructors.
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>I visit used book stores seeking books I can
>afford -- some beyond my skill level.
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>I work at understanding what I can. I look
>for books that fill gaps when I have purchased
>beyond my abilities.
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>So, I do appreciate when an author makes a
>plain statement of prerequisites.


Of course that's a good thing - that in no way
negates my comments on Paul's pronouncement...

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>Even so, any book is better than no book
>when one is interested.
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