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Topic: What the heck happened to Trigonometry in the Common Core??!!
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Re: What the heck happened to Trigonometry in the Common Core??!!
Posted: Apr 12, 2013 4:22 PM
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Hopefully everyone has taken a very close look at what is being taught in 7th and 8th grade math right now (they were forced to do common core with less phase in than high school). There is no way to really grasp how much harder high school math is going to be without looking at what is being done in middle school.

In theory, students should be better prepared for STEM careers with the common core curriculum. I believe very strongly this would be true if it had been phased in from kindergarten on up. Those students should be great by the time they get to high school. The students to feel really sorry for is anyone right now in grades 4 through 8. They are in trouble.

Elizabeth Waite
AMTNYS Coordinator of Reps

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From: TKENYON <>
To: nyshsmath <>
Sent: Fri, Apr 12, 2013 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: What the heck happened to Trigonometry in the Common Core??!!

I'm looking at:

I see more than 35 days. I assume you see the 20 for AII and 15 for precalculus. Geometry has 45 days on similarity and trig (and proofs). Included in the geometry curriculum are law of sines and law of cosines, as well as proofs of those laws. I can easily see 25 of those 45 days being dedicated to trig in geometry, bringing the total up to 60 days.

Still, I find the 15 days in pre-calculus to be incredibly insufficient, unless we're a little more rigorous in AII than in the past. Imho, a student isn't ready for calculus if they don't know the power reduction formulas, double-angle formulas, values of common angles, etc., like the back of their hands (there are no reference tables in calculus).

On the other hand - 40 days on vectors and matrices?? Wow! I haven't looked closely to see what is included - applications of matrices such as solving systems of equations encountered doing partial fraction decompositions?

-Tom Kenyon
CRCS Mathematics/Physics wrote: -----
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From: Regina Stasiak
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Date: 04/12/2013 02:52PM
Subject: What the heck happened to Trigonometry in the Common Core??!!

I don?t know how to get someone to listen to me (us.) When is this madness going to stop with non-math educators in control of setting up this curriculum?! If you look at the new PARCC (which I understand is not the true Common Core picture but supposedly pretty close) guidelines, Trigonometry has now gone from 40 days total over 4 years (which is absurd to begin with) to 35 days??!!

How do you expect any STEM progress to be made in NYS, let alone this country, with 35 days of trig scheduled??!! (I understand this is the minimum but still?.the first years will be minimal.)

Doesn?t PARCC stand for ?Partnership for Assessment of Readiness for College and Careers??

I know for a fact my daughter (a freshman in Engineering at University of Buffalo) does nothing but Calculus/Physics/Engineering all day long??and it?s nothing but some form of trig application all day long. Thank God she?s out of high school before this train wreck happens.

At our last inservice day (I have been teaching in NYS for 30 years), I asked our superintendent, principal, and director of curriculum (who all happened to be meeting with our high school math department that day) if they understood that the way we are implementing the common core is ethically and morally wrong for the kids of NYS?their response was ?yes.?

Regina Stasiak
Clarence HS Math Department

From: [] On Behalf Of Peggy Niforos
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:54 PM
Subject: This should help: Differences in the curriculum

The frameworks for PARCC are finalized. The engageNY "A Story of Functions ..." is organized by what topics they think go together for teaching purposes.

The frameworks on the PARCC website are arranged by standards. I have attached a link to the page because I find it hard to navigate the website. The link for Geometry and Algebra 2 will have the same basic address just change the course name.

BTW - the last couple of pages makes the connection between Algebra 1 and 2


Subject: RE: Differences in the curriculum
Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:25:10 +0000

Appendix A of the Common Core State Standards organizes the high school mathematics standards into grade-by-grade courses. NYSED had indicated that they chose the traditional path. At another time it was indicated that NYSED would be following the PARCC frameworks. The frameworks for the high school courses are being developed.

From: [] On Behalf Of Peggy Niforos
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: RE: Differences in the curriculum

I would like to point out the need to READ THE FOOTNOTES on the engageNY document. The footnotes differentiate what is in Algebra 1 and Algebra 2 curriculum when a standard is shared.

I know people tend to ignore things like that, so that's why I'm mentioning it.

Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 09:21:09 -0400
Subject: Re: Differences in the curriculum

Gene, I think your comment sums up what I am actually looking for. (Standards that are specific for each course!)
"actually creating a standard that is specific for each course (which would have been the most helpful choice)."
I work in a very small school middle school (I am the only teacher for Integrated Algebra in the middle school) and would love to see the specific standards that others are using.
If anyone is willing to share theirs with me I would be so appreciative!!!

On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Gene Jordan <> wrote:

I was slowly working on that as well, and for me the hard part of the new Algebra curriculum is distinguishing the assessment limits for those dual-standards that are taught in both courses. The document linked has that information laid out in the clearest way, short of actually creating a standard that is specific for each course (which would have been the most helpful choice).

There are teachers in my BOCES who are working on HS curricula that match the ?modules? sequence and the PARCC?s focus areas. Are other districts/BOCES working on this?

~Gene Jordan

From: [] On Behalf Of
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Differences in the curriculum

I was just working on this yesterday. This link is the PARCC Framework document that lists the modules, importance of them and changes from Appendix A

From: Elise Teitelbaum <>
Date: 04/12/2013 07:46 AM
Subject: Differences in the curriculum
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Can anybody tell me what is in the new Integrated Algebra curriculum (for the 2014 test) that is not in the curriculum for the this year's exam?

Are there more topics that need to be covered prior to next year's early June exam compared to the topics that need to be covered for this year's mid June exam.

Is there a site that I can access to see the differences?

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