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Re: Matheology §252
Posted: Apr 18, 2013 6:19 PM
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On 4/18/2013 4:58 PM, fom wrote:
> On 4/18/2013 1:46 AM, fom wrote:
>> On 4/18/2013 1:42 AM, WM wrote:
>>> On 18 Apr., 08:19, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
>>>

>>>> WM cannot be an ultrafinitist and
>>>> expect others to not hold him to
>>>> task for it.

>>>
>>> There is a third way: potential infinity.
>>>

>>
>> WM had been given examples of how that
>> third way is implemented *mathematically*.
>>
>> WM cannot understand his own beliefs.
>>

>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxastic_logic#Types_of_reasoners
>
> see "peculiar reasoner"
> -necessarily inaccurate
>
> compare "conceited reasoner"
> -will lapse into inaccuracy
>
> from "peculiar reasoner"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_paradox
>
> "There is currently no generally accepted explanation
> of Moore's Paradox in the philosophical literature.
> However, while Moore's Paradox remains a philosophical
> curiosity, Moorean-type sentences are used by logicians,
> computer scientists, and those working in the artificial
> intelligence community as examples of cases in which a
> knowledge, belief, or information system is unsuccessful
> in updating its knowledge/belief/information store in
> light of new or novel information"
>
>
>


from "moore's paradox"

"Many philosophers -- though by no means all -- also hold
that Moore's Paradox arises not only at the level of
assertion but also at the level of belief. Interestingly,
one who believes an instance of a Moorean sentence is
tantamount to one who is subject to or engaging in
self-deception, at least on one standard way of
describing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-deception

In other words, does this describe what the readers
of this thread consider to be the state of affairs
for WM?

"WM believes that

(|N is a completed infinity and WM does not believe
that |N is a completed infinity)"




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