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Topic: Matheology § 255
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 Virgil Posts: 8,833 Registered: 1/6/11
Re: Matheology � 255
Posted: Apr 21, 2013 3:56 AM

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WM <mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de> wrote:

> On 20 Apr., 23:47, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
> > On 4/20/2013 1:44 PM, WM wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

> > > On 20 Apr., 19:45, fom <fomJ...@nyms.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>> Mathematicians can. Dedekind was a mathematician. Dedekind could.
> >
> > >> Yes.  It does depend on definitions.
> >
> > >> I will not get my copy out concerning this matter
> > >> since I made the distinctions correctly.

> >
> > > Not with respect to the inventor of that matter.
> >
> > >> However, Dedekind did not call his domains inductive
> > >> sets.

> >
> > > Neither did I.
> >
> > >>   He called them simply infinite sets.
> >
> > >> It depends on the definitions.
> >
> > > Not in the mathematics of Dedekind and myself.
> >
> > It would, apparently, be appropriate to call
> > WM a liar here, although I have heard that in
> > German there can be some ambiguity concerning
> > the words surrounding the translation of
> > "definition".
> >
> > Paragraph 71
> >
> > Definition.  A system N is said to be
> > simply infinite when there exists a similar
> > transformation P of N in itself such that N
> > appears as chain of an element not contained
> > in P(N).  We call this element, which we shall
> > denote in what follows by the symbol '1', the
> > base-element of N and say the simply infinite
> > system N is set in order by this transformation P.
> >
> > It seems that Dedekind uses definitions
> > contrary to WM's assertion.-

>
> Of course he does. And I never disputed that. You are simply too blind
> to understand written text.

WM once again claims his own flaws really belong to others.
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