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Haim

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Re: David Berliner on "A Nation at Risk": Three Decades of Lies #2 - ADDENDUM #2
Posted: Apr 30, 2013 12:15 PM
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Richard Hake Posted: Apr 27, 2013 2:21 PM

> Some subscribers to MathEdCC might be interested in a
>recent post "Re: David Berliner on 'A Nation at Risk':
>Three Decades of Lies #2---ADDENDUM #2" [Hake (2013c)].


So I was curious to know just exactly whom David Berliner, Diane Ravitch, and Richard Hake are calling liars, so I found "Nation At Risk" here,
http://datacenter.spps.org/uploads/SOTW_A_Nation_at_Risk_1983.pdf

"Nation At Risk" is the report of a presidential commission comprising, inter alia,

David P. Gardner (Chair)
President
University of Utah and
President-Elect, University of California
Salt Lake City, Utah

Norman C. Francis
President
Xavier University of Louisiana
New Orleans, Louisiana

A. Bartlett Giamatti
President
Yale University
New Haven, Connecticut

Gerald Holton
Mallinckrodt Professor of Physics and
Professor of the History of Science
Harvard University
Cambridge, Massachusetts

Glenn T. Seaborg
University Professor of Chemistry and Nobel Laureate
University of California
Berkeley, California
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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On the charge that no sources of information were given, I note that this was a commission. Commissions hear testimony and commission papers. On hearing testimony, one can only marvel at their energy level. Here is partial list of their schedule,

Appendix B: Schedule of the Commission's Public Events

In addition to these public events, the Commission members also attended a number of
subcommittee meetings and worksessions over the course of 18 months.

Event: Full Commission Meeting
Dates: October 9-10, 1981
Place: Washington, D.C.

Event: Full Commission Meeting
Date: December 7, 1981
Place: Washington, D.C.

Event: Full Commission Meeting
Date: February 25, 1982
Place: Washington, D.C.

Event: Hearing--Science, Mathematics, and Technology Education
Date: March 11, 1982
Place: Stanford University, Stanford, California
Hosts: Donald Kennedy, President, Stanford University; and J. Myron Atkin, Dean,
Graduate School of Education, Stanford University

Event: Hearing--Language and Literacy: Skills for Academic Learning
Date: April 16, 1982
Place: Houston Independent School District, Houston, Texas
Hosts: Raymon Bynum, Texas State Commissioner of Education;
---------------------

On the charge of no data, or no citations, here is a partial list of their commissioned papers,

Appendix C: Commissioned Papers

Joseph Adelson, The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
"Twenty-Five years of American Education: An Interpretation"

Catherine P. Ailes and Francis W. Rushing, SRI International, Arlington, Virginia
"A Summary Report on the Educational Systems of the United States and the
Soviet Union: Comparative Analysis"

Alexander W. Astin, University of California, Los Angeles
"Excellence and Equity in American Education"

Alexander W. Astin, University of California, Los Angeles
"The American Freshman, 1966-1981: Some Implications for Educational Policy
and Practice"

Herman Blake, University of California, Santa Cruz
"Demographic Change and Curriculum: New Students in Higher Education
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Their full schedule of events requires two pages to list. Their full complement of commissioned papers requires three pages. And there is more, testifying to the large number of scholars and other interested parties, some with impeccable international reputations, contributing to the report.

Maybe it's just me, but "Nation At Risk" does not have the look and feel of a small cabal of malicious persons trying to defraud the public. On the other hand, one man throwing rhetorical turds and two pilers on...

Haim


Date Subject Author
4/27/13
Read Re: David Berliner on "A Nation at Risk": Three Decades of Lies
#2 - ADDENDUM #2
Richard Hake
4/29/13
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Haim
4/30/13
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Haim
4/30/13
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- ADDENDUM #2
Petrak, Daniel G.
4/30/13
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Haim
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Haim
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Phil Mahler
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Haim
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