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Topic: Matheology � 258
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 dan.ms.chaos@gmail.com Posts: 409 Registered: 3/1/08
Re: Matheology § 258
Posted: May 1, 2013 5:15 AM

> It is necessary for Cantor's proof. Unless every digit exists on the
> diagonal, the diagonal number is undefined in an undefined list. But
> that is Cantor's claim: forall n : a_nn =/= d_n.

It exists "as formula" , whether or not you know the formula . Let's
define an irrational number , such that it's k'th digit is the k'th
prime number mod 10 .

i = 0.235713793......

What do you gain by writing the digits? Nothing . There is nothing
that can be done writing the digits that can't be done with the
formula. The formula tells you 'more' than how to write down the
digits . You'd die of thirst next to a lake because you don't know how
to drink water that's not from a 'finite' bottle .

> Yes, but there are only countably many formulas.

Formulas as "strings of characters"/syntax are defined relative to a
language .
There is no 'completed language' that proves that formulas are
countable . A language cannot count over its own formulas:

Every language L_2 that counts the formulas in L_1 has its own new
uncountable formulas.

> It is true, since light velocity cannot be exceeded without time
> reversal. If time reversal was possible, we would have noticed it.

Quantum mechanics . Non-locality (faster than light influences) or
anti-realism (the world isn't there when you don't observe it) .
Pick one .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem

> No.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mvm5F84SCt8/TrFamVPnjzI/AAAAAAAAB-U/4Ae4dtiEIoI/s1600/3+wise+monkeys.jpg

> The claim that all rationals can be enumerated is already nonsense
> (since for every enumerated q_n there are infinitely many not
> enumerated - you can enumerate every rational but not all). The claim
> that all reals cannot be enumerated is correct (infinity is simply
> infinite), but interpreted on the basis of the first claim it is
> nonsense too.

http://webdocs.cs.ualberta.ca/~contest/ACPC2007/contest/problems/e.html

> You demand a contradiction of astrology by an astrological argument? I
> conradict nonsense by showing that it is nonsense.
>
> Regards, WM

I (and many others ) demand a contradiction in mathematics by a
mathematical argument . Because nobody here understands astrological
arguments . You can dabble in you 'astrology' however you want, just
don't confuse what you're doing with mathematics . It's a waste of
time both for you , and legitimate mathematicians .

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