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Topic: Feedback in Turing Machines
Replies: 17   Last Post: May 29, 2013 12:36 AM

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 apoorv Posts: 53 Registered: 4/11/13
Re: Feedback in Turing Machines
Posted: May 28, 2013 3:04 PM

On May 28, 6:29 pm, apoorv <skj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 10:37 am, Graham Cooper <grahamcoop...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On May 27, 2:32 pm, William Elliot <ma...@panix.com> wrote:
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> > > On Sun, 26 May 2013, apoorv wrote:
> > > > On May 27, 8:13 am, William Elliot <ma...@panix.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 25 May 2013, apoorv wrote:
> > > > > > Is there some study on situation where the output from a TM at time T is
> > > > > > fed back so that the total input at time T+1 is some function of output
> > > > > > at time T and external input at time T+1.?

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> > > > > So imput is on the right and out on the left and when done at time t, move
> > > > > the output to the right of the tape and start again.

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> > > > > Time t+1 begins the new output from the old output. You get to wait until
> > > > > time t2 for the full second output.

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> > > > The external input and the output have to be combined
> > > > So the second TM is necessary?

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> > > Input 1 on the right side, gives output 1 on the left side.
> > > When done, imput 1 is erased and output 1 copied to the right side
> > > where it's now imput 2.  Imput 2 is used by the same machine
> > > to produce output 2 on the left side.

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> > Starting left and finishing right is just a convention.
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> > n=1
> > TMn - Start left, finish left, signal halt.
> > n++
> > repeat

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> > Seems there is never an output.
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> > Herc
> > --www.phpPROLOG.com

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> Eliot's post ,which appears to be deleted, showed that a single
> TM , could implement feedback. However, if we put the added
> Requirement that the input at time t is processed with delay not
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> A fixed time t0, then two TM s appear necessary .
> -Apoorv

An interesting thought. Since the brain uses
Almost real time feedback ,if at all it is digital
nature, then we should look for not one but two
Processors. Processor 1 receives the external input
And the output from processor 2 ,(this is also the
Final output). The combined input then goes to processor
2, which generates the final output.
A flow diagram -:

External input-------->Processor 1-->-
(sensory). | |
/\. |Total input
Fin output internal feedback|
|minimal lag |
Final output<----------Processor2--<--
(motor )

-Apoorv

Date Subject Author
5/25/13 apoorv
5/25/13 apoorv
5/26/13 Graham Cooper
5/26/13 Graham Cooper
5/26/13 apoorv
5/26/13 Graham Cooper
5/27/13 apoorv
5/26/13 William Elliot
5/27/13 apoorv
5/27/13 William Elliot
5/27/13 Graham Cooper
5/27/13 David Bernier
5/28/13 apoorv
5/28/13 apoorv
5/28/13 Graham Cooper
5/28/13 William Elliot
5/28/13 apoorv
5/29/13 Graham Cooper