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Topic: Matheology § 288
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 Tucsondrew@me.com Posts: 1,161 Registered: 5/24/13
Re: Matheology § 288
Posted: Jun 14, 2013 7:05 PM

On Friday, June 14, 2013 3:37:13 PM UTC-7, Virgil wrote:
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> Zeit Geist <tucsondrew@me.com> wrote:
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> > On Friday, June 14, 2013 11:23:28 AM UTC-7, muec...@rz.fh-augsburg.de wrote:
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> > > On Friday, 14 June 2013 20:08:07 UTC+2, Zeit Geist wrote:
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> > > > Writing all numbers one line, .111111..., is a Union.
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> > > And you believe that a union over sets that are unions of all preceding
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> > > sets yields more than these sets. Your choice. But not a rational idea.
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> > The amount of 1's in 1/9 is the same, not more, as the number of lines in
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> > being unioned.
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> What does "the number of lines in being unioned" mean in proper English?
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Fine. How about "the cardinality of the set to which the union is applied"?

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> > It's just more than any single finite line has.
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> > So?
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> In your wild weird world of WMytheology, more than finite is not
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> allowed, so your triangles must all have last lines which are finite.
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> And all such idiot restrictions inside WMytheology are irrelevant
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> outside of WMytheology.
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> > > >> The list given above does not contain aleph_0 1's in any direction.
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> > > > Really, can you write the whole list then?
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> One can describe it completely without having to write it all out digit
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> by digit, and 0.111..., at least to those who understand standard
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> mathematical notation, is just such a description.
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Yes, I know that. I was challenging WM to write it out.

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> > > That is not relevant as an argument against anti-symmetry.
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> > > You should be able to see from the symmetrical construction that symmetry
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> > The symmetry does prevIail.
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> NOT as you have diagrammed it. In ALL your diagramming, all finite
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> triangles are represented as right triangles with one set of sides
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> vertical and the other horizontal.
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No my diagram at is WM's. My arguments use Unions.

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> > The three Unions in the "completed" list all have same number of elements.
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> > It's just like in any finite sub-list.
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That is exactly what I said.

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> Except that, at least outside WMytheology, the vertical and diagonal
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> sides of the limit diagram are endless so that any imagined third side
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> must be missing both ends, and your alleged triangle has only one vertex.
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I don't know of any theory that defines "triangle" in such a manner.
And WM certainly has not provide a clear definition for it in this setting.

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> > Saying that infinity does not exist in "Reality" and ZFC assumes infinity,
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> > does make make ZFC an invalid Mathematical construct.
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> which are quite different, and both are quite different from
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> WMytheology.

Big OOPS!!!
That should read "does NOT make ZFC an invalid Math...".

I actually find the ironic fact that, the Mathematics that do NOT
correspond to reality to be the most fruitful in explaining physical
reality.

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ZG

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