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Topic: Can addition be defined in terms of multiplication?
Replies: 58   Last Post: Aug 23, 2013 3:56 PM

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 Peter Percival Posts: 1,836 Registered: 10/25/10
Re: Can addition be defined in terms of multiplication?
Posted: Aug 16, 2013 5:31 AM

William Elliot wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Aug 2013, Peter Percival wrote:
>

>> Can addition be defined in terms of multiplication? I.e., is there a formula
>> in the language of arithmetic
>>
>> x + y = z <-> ...
>>
>> such that in '...' any of the symbols of arithmetic except + may occur? Or,
>> alternatively, is there a formula in the language of arithmetic
>>
>> x + y = ...
>>
>> with the same requirement?

>
> x + y = log(e^x * e^y)

Er... yes...

>> The symbols of arithmetic (for the purpose of this question) are either
>>
>> individual variables, (classical) logical constants including =,
>> S, +, *, and punctuation marks;
>>
>> or the above with < as an additional binary predicate symbol.
>>

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