On 09/02/2013 10:14 PM, Louis Talman wrote: > How very interesting. > > Lots of storm and fury over how we're being beaten by other countries. > > Lots of storm and fury over the possibility "of stopping all K-12 > state testing (the STAR program) and there is no immediate plan on > starting a new testing program anytime soon". > > But no observation that there's a lack of multiple-guess testing in > those other countries. Those states just aren't interested in > "accountability". How on Earth can it be that they're better at > getting the kids to learn mathematics than we are? > > Oh, dear! Oh, dear! Oh, dear!
It will be interesting to see if the moderator lets that one through, Lou. Your usual mocking schoolyard bully tone with a dose of international straw men being erected, since I don't think I've ever raised the "beaten by other countries" flag nor did Wayne in his response.
Other countries don't have the inmates running their K-12 asylums. As far as I'm concerned, testing is only required in the USA because of a lack of uniform competence in our K-12 teaching and administrator corps, and especially among the Ed.D. crowd.
> > > On Mon, 02 Sep 2013 20:43:12 -0600, Wayne Bishop > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > At 03:28 PM 9/2/2013, Greg Goodknight wrote: > >> Common Core is a doubling down on a national level by the self >> described reformers. Fasten your seat belts, it's going to be a >> bumpy night. In yet another parallel to the '90's, the state of >> California may be on a path (a bill is moving through the >> legislature) of stopping all K-12 state testing (the STAR >> program) and there is no immediate plan on starting a new testing >> program anytime soon, so the state's schools will be flying blind >> on a Common Core flight plan until some legislature in the future >> reinstates some measure besides the CC's boosters saying how much >> more math (and everything else) the kids are now learning. > > Your education industry dollars at work. > ---------------------------------------------------- > Friday, August 30, AB484 passed out of California State Senate > Appropriations Committee and will head to the full State Senate floor. > > The intent of the bill is to suspend all state testing and to > permanently end the STAR testing program that has tracked > proficiency in California for more than a decade. > > Theoretically, the STAR testing program is to be replaced by the > Smarter Balanced Assessment Consortium (SBAC) tests, but those > tests have not yet been developed and there are no assurances the > new tests will be implemented in coming years. > > Also AB484 permanently will end all tracking in California of > Algebra 1 proficiency, including a permanent ban on tracking how > many California 7th or 8th graders achieve proficiency in Algebra > at the end of those years. While local school districts may > provide students options for accelerated mathematics, California, > as a state, no longer will evaluate or collect data on such pathways. > > Theoretically, there will be one math standardized test > administered in 11th grade at some undecided future year to all > juniors. That exam will include Algebra 2 as the primary > evaluated standard, though it is questionable if that test ever > will make it to students. > > Effectively, California will be done, statewide, with any tracking > or school-to-school comparisons of high school math proficiencies. > And, California will end data collection of any achievement gaps > for mathematics between students of different demographics, > economic backgrounds or geographies. > ------------------------------------------------------------- > > In other words, if you see some progress - no matter how > incrementally small - stamp it out before it spreads. That's why > California recently increased its taxes by public initiative, "for > the students". > > Wayne > > > > > -- > --Louis A. Talman > Department of Mathematical and Computer Sciences > Metropolitan State University of Denver > > <http://rowdy.msudenver.edu/~talmanl > <http://rowdy.msudenver.edu/%7Etalmanl>>