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Topic: Can L(<) be the language of the naturals?
Replies: 35   Last Post: Sep 10, 2013 2:12 AM

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 albrecht Posts: 1,136 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Can L(<) be the language of the naturals?
Posted: Sep 7, 2013 3:47 AM

Am Freitag, 6. September 2013 09:56:06 UTC+2 schrieb Zeit Geist:
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Exact this is what I say: The (actually) natural numbers are prior any reasoning, communication and language.

And the second thing: von Neumann numbers and similar "Dr. Fankenstein creatures" of mathematicians ARE NOT the natural numbers. So, why call them "natural numbers"? Idiocy, improvidence, spoofing?

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