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Topic: An optimization problem
Replies: 19   Last Post: Sep 14, 2013 9:44 AM

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 Peter Percival Posts: 2,623 Registered: 10/25/10
Re: An optimization problem
Posted: Sep 8, 2013 9:01 AM

quasi wrote:
> Peter Percival wrote:
>> quasi wrote:

>>>
>>> No, that's not automatic -- it requires proof.

>>
>> Indeed so. What I meant when I said it was clear is that the
>> proof is very simple and can be be done in ones head.
>>
>> For simplicity's sake let n = 2, x_1 = y and x_2 = z, then my
>> claim is that if
>>
>> (1 + y^2 + z^2)/(1 + y + z)
>>
>> has a minimum, then y = z there. Why is that clear? Because
>> if it weren't so then
>>
>> (1 + y^2 + z^2)/(1 + y + z) =/= (1 + z^2 + y^2)/(1 + z + y).

>
> you know that there is a _unique_ point in R^2 for which the
> function achieves a minimum.

Silly me! What a foolish mistake to make.

> If all you know is that the function f is symmetric in the
> variables y and z and that f achieves a global minimum value
> somewhere in the domain, that's not enough to conclude that
> the global minimum value can be achieved at some point for
> which y = z.
>
> quasi
>

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And silent now the earth's green oracles
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