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Topic: The Invalidity of Godel's Incompleteness Work.
Replies: 87   Last Post: Oct 25, 2013 2:44 PM

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 fom Posts: 1,968 Registered: 12/4/12
Re: The Invalidity of Godel's Incompleteness Work.
Posted: Oct 19, 2013 6:31 PM

On 10/19/2013 1:15 PM, Nam Nguyen wrote:
> On 19/10/2013 12:10 PM, Peter Percival wrote:
>> Nam Nguyen wrote:
>>> On 19/10/2013 11:32 AM, fom wrote:
>>
>>>> And, the meaning of "impossible to know"?
>>>
>>> Right there: right in front of you.
>>>
>>> _A meta truth_ is said to be impossible to know if it's not in the
>>> collection of meta truths, resulting from all available definitions,
>>> permissible reasoning methods, within the underlying logic framework
>>> [FOL(=) in this case].

>>
>> We don't yet know if PA|-cGC or PA|-~cGC, so we don't know if "PA|-cGC"
>> or "PA|-~cGC" is in the collection of meta truths. So we don't know if
>> it's impossible to know cGC (or ~cGC). Why, then, do you claim that
>> it's impossible to know cGC (or ~cGC)?
>>
>> Do you know that both cGC and ~cGC are not in the collection of meta
>> truths? If so you must know that neither PA|-cGC nor PA|-~cGC. You
>> should publish your proof. And stop claiming that Gödel's
>> incompleteness theorem is invalid, because if neither PA|-cGC nor
>> PA|-~cGC, then that is an example of incompleteness.
>>
>> Also if you know that neither PA|-cGC nor PA|-~cGC, then you've proved
>> PA consistent. So you should stop claiming that its consistency is
>> unprovable.

>
> _Do you first understand the definition itself_ ?
>
> Would you please confirm you now do or still don't? Thanks.
>

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