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Topic: Using the term "Relativity Effect" is stupid or religious
Replies: 18   Last Post: Oct 28, 2013 11:08 PM

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 David Bernier Posts: 3,892 Registered: 12/13/04
Re: Using the term "Relativity Effect" is stupid or religious
Posted: Oct 24, 2013 12:59 PM

On 10/24/2013 11:18 AM, grahamcooper7@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:32:58 PM UTC-7, Tom Potter wrote:
>> As can be seen by the numerous references to
>>
>> RELATIVITY EFFECTS in the media, in education,
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>> and on the Internet,
>>
>>
>>
>> most people have been brainwashed by the Mass Media,
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>> and by charlatans who pretend to possess
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>> powerful, esoteric knowledge,
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>>
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>> to think that an equation controls the universe,
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>> rather than can be used to efficiently model
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>> a LIMITED set of real world situations.
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>>
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>> Considering that a body has six degrees of freedom in free space,
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>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_freedom
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>>
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>> and is affected by external masses and charges,
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>>
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>> and has a degree of freedom with respect
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>> to EACH of the other bodies in the universe,
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>>
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>> it would be more HONEST, INTELLIGENT and RATIONAL,
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>> and less RELIGIOUS and CULTIST,
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>> to refer to effects as follows:
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>>
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>> 1. Space translation effects as Euclid effects.
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>> 2. Pitch, roll and yaw as NAUTICAL effects.
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>> 3. Mass effects as Galilieo or Newton effects.
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>> 4. Charge effects as Thales effects.
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>> 5. Other body effects as Maxwell effects.
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>>
>>
>> As all of these effects
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>> AFFECT a heat differential,
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>> this effect could be best called the Boltzmann effect.
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>>
>>
>> Note that effects not covered by these effects
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>> can be called God effects.
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>>
>>
>> To see how some people have been brainwashed,
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>> or are trying to brainwash YOU,
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>> visit the Web sites below.
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>>
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>> http://relativity.livingreviews.org/open?pubNo=lrr-2003-1
>>
>> "without carefully accounting for numerous relativistic effects,
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>> the GPS system would not work."
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>>
>>
>> http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html
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>> "Relativistic effects on satellite clocks"
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>>
>>
>> http://www.exploratorium.edu/relativity/
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>> "Observe the effects of special relativity
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>> as you travel near the speed of light! "
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>>
>>
>> http://www.anu.edu.au/physics/Searle/
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>> "what we might see in a world
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>> where the effects of Einstein's theory of special relativity
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>> are everyday experiences."
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>>
>>
>> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/gold_color.html
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>> "without including relativistic effects"
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>>
>>
>>
>> "depicts general relativistic effects"
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>>
>>
>> The bottom line is:
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>> there are NO Relativity effects
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>> but there are effects that can be best viewed and expressed as:
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>>
>>
>> 1. Space translation effects
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>> 2. Pitch, roll and yaw effects.
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>> 3. Mass effects.
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>> 4. Charge effects.
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>> 5. Other body effects.
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>> 6. Boltzmann effects.
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>> 7. God effects.
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>>
>>
>> The current approach of visualizing, teaching and using
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>> effects is an inefficient Tower of Babel
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>> that smacks of religion and cult worship.
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>>
>>
>> If society is to worship anyone,
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>> they should worship the folks
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>> who first called attention to the effects.
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>>
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>> The dumb and the dense should take note
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>> that velocity is using
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>> some mass [Newton] or charge [Thales] effect
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>> as a tick source to quantize the rate of
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>> space [Euclid] change,
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>>
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>> before they put their conditioned minds in gear.
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>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Tom Potter
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>>
>>
>> http://warp-to.us/
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>> http://prioritize.biz/
>>
>> http://tiny.im/390k
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>> http://tom-potters-world.tk/

>
>
>
>
> I worked out gravity the other day!
>
> VERY VERY VERY SIMPLE!
>
> It's based on centrifuge artificial gravity - those Ark space ships
> that rotate!
>
> When you're in a spinning space ship... or one of those Alien Ship rides
> at the Show where you can walk up the walls at 1.5G..
>
> there is no need for a POINT-TO-POINT gravity FORCE! There is no
> need for some SPONGY FABRIC for gravity fields to pass through!
>
> IT's a centrifuge! Simple hey! We are on the INSIDE of the centrifuge
> and the ground under your feet is on the OUTSIDE wall of the centrifuge!
>
> As it spins we are accelerated towards the ground!
>
> So is the UNIVERSE a GIANT TOROID and when we look up we see
> Aliens on the other side of the Universe looking up at us?
>
> No, it's not a spinning bike wheel because the CHINA MEN would
> fall off the other side of the world!
>
> So this SPINNING has be moving THROUGH SPACE but not within our same 3D space..
> and the CURVE that glues your feet to the floor just like the centrifuge
> is called SpaceTime Curviture... hence NO EITHER REQUIRED!
>
> Which is SMART because 10^60 particles all attracting all other 10^60-1
> particles would be difficult to compute where everything has to move next!

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Date Subject Author
10/23/13 Tom Potter
10/23/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/24/13 Lord Androcles
10/24/13 Sam Wormley
10/25/13 Tom Potter
10/25/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/24/13 Graham Cooper
10/24/13 David Bernier
10/24/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/25/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/26/13 Graham Cooper
10/27/13 David Bernier
10/27/13 David Bernier
10/27/13 Graham Cooper
10/27/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/28/13 David Bernier
10/28/13 Brian Q. Hutchings
10/28/13 bernierdavid250@gmail.com
10/28/13 Brian Q. Hutchings