R Hansen says: >Why don't you try attacking my argument for a change. Namely, that this science is perverted by other motives.
Well, excuse me, I was addressing some of what you said instead of what you meant. If your *key* point was this:
R Hansen says: >The goal of most education research is to make students smarter. This is not a scientific goal. This is why education research results in so much bad science. You can't do "science" when you have an ulterior motive.
If that's your key point I won't attack it - that's not necessary because its so obviously wrong. Perhaps what you *meant* (always a risk to re-interpret) is that ulterior motives *may* undermine scientific integrity. Now that obviously true, but doesn't bear on the current thread topic at all, unless you can first prove what you think you have already proved, which is that the research referenced has both ulterior motives and is scientifically compromised.