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Robert Hansen

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Re: The monkey-sense is more important than you think.
Posted: Oct 27, 2013 2:37 PM
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On Oct 27, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Joe Niederberger <niederberger@comcast.net> wrote:

> Well, for starters, you might want to look at correlation of IQ to income, and then IQ to wealth. Not the same at all.

Really? So you are saying that smarter people make more money yet do not end up wealthier. Sounds like you've read yet another "scholarly" article that proves 1 + 1 is 3. I assume from your response that you agree that smarter people, on average, make more money. I implore you to stop searching for a paper and just think about what that means in terms of wealth. Educated people tend to handle their money better. Nuff said.

But we digress...

"The most potent development over the past three decades is that the test scores of children from high-income families have increased very rapidly. Before 1980, affluent students had little advantage over middle-class students in academic performance; most of the socioeconomic disparity in academics was between the middle class and the poor. But the rich now outperform the middle class by as much as the middle class outperform the poor. Just as the incomes of the affluent have grown much more rapidly than those of the middle class over the last few decades, so, too, have most of the gains in educational success accrued to the children of the rich."

First off, I don't see any large scale assessments showing a rapid increase in test scores. The SAT had to be re-centered DOWN 100 points, NOT UP!. More importantly, and this has been stated here many times before, the middle of education is a total mess. What do I mean by the middle of education? I mean all of those students from middle class families trotting off to school. They are taking physics classes that aren't physics. Algebra classes that aren't algebra. Calculus classes that aren't calculus. Middle school, high school, college. It's all in the same rotten shape. Unless your parents are AFFLUENT. Even then, it is a very tough job to see that your child gets a real education. You know this. You had to send yours to a special school. In my day, if you took high school physics it meant getting through vectors, calculus and solving problems. Even when you took it at just a regular high school. It doesn't mean that anymore. They traded those talented courses in for shitty courses so that everyone could take physics. I would suspect, given that half of the college graduates are unemployed or underemployed, this phenomena is even worse now than it was in this study.

There, now you know the truth. But wait! You knew already, which is why you redirected your son's education. But for some reason, here, you forget all that and post a paper that says 1 + 1 is 3.

Bob Hansen






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