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Topic: the ugly contradiction at the heart of High School Geometry #35.3
Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS

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plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com

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getting the old fake geometry out of the High School and College
classrooms #35.13 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS

Posted: Nov 3, 2013 12:48 PM
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Alright, Wally did good in trying to defend the establishment old decayed contradictory Geometry taught in High School and Colleges, by trying to shift the focus from "length" to that of "distance". So that a point has no length, but that 2 points can have a distance.

Which would be the argument most would make, even John Baez when he is not stalk mocking. And I have to say, Wally really caught me off guard there, for I never thought I would have to distinguish between length and distance.

As Wally said:

WW> The distance between Point A and Point B is given by the Pythagorean
>
> Theorem, regardless of how many points exist between these two points.
>


But unbeknownced to Wally or establishment geometers the distance argument is far worse than the length argument since the "empty space between two points" is made immediately aware of. For if we select any two points, A and B in the plane and compute the distance, as WW says, we are not measuring how many points lie along the path from A to B but rather, we are measuring "empty space between A and B".

So with the distance argument we arrive at the contradiction at the heart of modern day Fake Geometry far earlier than if we do the length argument.

In the length argument I have to appeal to finite and infinity borderline to resolve the contradiction to obtain a microinfinity that gives a "empty space composed of infinite numbers".

So I compliment WW for at least trying to defend the establishment of their fakery geometry which they indoctrinate innocent High School kids and College students with their phony baloney of a Euclidean Geometry of continuity, and always another point between any two points, and their continuum and their line with length but points without length.

All that geometers need do to fix their contradictory fake geometry, is recognize that three items exist-- point, empty space and line. To stop being lazy and recognize that finite has a borderline with infinity which demands an empty space between two successive points.

So, people can be like Jennifer Murphy that want to run and hide from new true ideas and want to forever teach people old fake ideas. Who want to indoctrinate young students to pollution, rather than debate and question ideas. At least Wally made an attempt to defend although he failed which is far more than can be said for John Baez (Brian Q. Hutchings, where did you pick up that name-- some character in literature??) or said for Jennifer Murphy and her camps of suppression training.

Kids deserve better education than seeing a mocking John Baez or a suppressionist Jennifer Murphy. Kids deserve to see the logical arguments for and against geometry of line with length.

Sure, a lot of money is at stake for every High School and College at this moment is using a textbook of geometry that is mostly fake geometry. But change has to start somewhere when your teaching is fakery. And Usenet is a good place to start that wholescale change of getting the fakery and phony old geometry out of schools.

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Date Subject Author
11/1/13
Read the ugly contradiction at the heart of High School Geometry #35.3
Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/1/13
Read Re: the ugly contradiction at the heart of High School Geometry #35.3
Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Brian Q. Hutchings
11/2/13
Read 1 Grid System and the Naturals and Empty Space is *Infinity numbers*
#35.4 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read yeajh, but I don't hate you, THAT much
Brian Q. Hutchings
11/2/13
Read some changes in True Geometry, once "empty space" is factored in
#35.5 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: the ugly contradiction at the heart of High School Geometry #35.3 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Wally W.
11/2/13
Read remarkable how few people recognize a contradiction when shown one
#35.6 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: remarkable how few people recognize a contradiction when shown one #35.6 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Wally W.
11/2/13
Read why the nonscientist has such a difficult time of comprehending what
a contradiction is and what it means
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: why the nonscientist has such a difficult time of comprehending what a contradiction is and what it means
Wally W.
11/2/13
Read what a real rebuttal of AP's claim of a contradiction in the heart of
Geometry looks like #35.9 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: what a real rebuttal of AP's claim of a contradiction in the heart of Geometry looks like #35.9 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Wally W.
11/2/13
Read Re: what a real rebuttal of AP's claim of a contradiction in the
heart of Geometry looks like #35.9 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read rebuttal in defence of establishment Geometry is weak with its
distance rather than length #35.11 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/3/13
Read Re: what a real rebuttal of AP's claim of a contradiction in the heart of Geometry looks like #35.9 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Wally W.
11/3/13
Read establishment Geometry still has the contradiction and needs a
mechanism to survive #35.12 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/3/13
Read getting the old fake geometry out of the High School and College
classrooms #35.13 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: why the nonscientist has such a difficult time of comprehending what a contradiction is and what it means
Jennifer Murphy
11/2/13
Read Re: why the nonscientist has such a difficult time of comprehending what a contradiction is and what it means
Wally W.
11/3/13
Read Re: why the nonscientist has such a difficult time of comprehending what a contradiction is and what it means
Jennifer Murphy
11/2/13
Read Jennifer Murphy ostrich, hiding away from intellectual debate and
wants to suppress new ideas
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read some huge changes to geometry of True Geometry #35.7 Uni-text 8th
ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read We keep and maintain Parallelism in True Geometry #35.8 Uni-text 8th
ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com
11/2/13
Read Re: We keep and maintain Parallelism in True Geometry #35.8 Uni-text 8th ed.: TRUE CALCULUS
Wally W.
11/3/13
Read however, it is really not that funny, when you don't pretend that
it's no a.p. (you are when
Brian Q. Hutchings

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