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ross.finlayson@gmail.com

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Re: Formal proof of the ambiguity of 0^0
Posted: Nov 3, 2013 5:37 PM
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On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:33:26 PM UTC-7, Ross A. Finlayson wrote:
> On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:29:52 PM UTC-7, Bart Goddard wrote:
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What do you mean zero to "the" zero?

I see it's written write there the zero and the other zero
right there above it. Zero to the zero or zero, zero to
the zeroeth power, anything to the zeroeth power equals 1.
Zero, though, otherwise for anything else, zero to any
power is zero. Besides zero, zero, any number of products
of copies of zero is zero. Yet, sometimes: zero to the
zeroeth power is better evaluated as one, here as it is
the discontinuity for that for everything else X, X^0 = 1.

Here the point is there are two zeroes, zero the scalar
and zero the exponent. If being about 1 is an ideal
condition, then it is one.

Then in the frameworks like the theory where there are
counterexamples, that's basically established on the
contingency that all the numbers here simply and well
enough about the zeroes, are as to expected continuity of
their conditions.

Well now I'm sure I have my ignorance here enough for
that, yet, I find Peter and Dan should work to accommodate
that intuitively and constructively each has its points,
as to axiomatics, those being domain axiomatics or model.
Those are then stipulations on the notation as to their
general context and simply making clear or pointing out
the discrepancy for each.

Then about effects where for those two functions they're
each other's discontinuities, it makes there as zero is
central for the general usual case where zero is central
or original.

x^0 = 1
0^x = 0

These are relevant as generally the parameter estimation
sees each as relevant or not contrary to approximation, as
they are used with approximating terms in relative
(linear) frameworks for the behavior as the value goes to
zero, or through zero.

The functions or identities are state without otherwise
assumptions as to x which here is the point of discrepancy
as to how the other would apply, these identities as
functions (i.e., here constants or identities and the
identity establish enough their nullity in their
frameworks about them).

It seems that if you set x^0 or 0^x it would have the
constant value.

Thank you, Ross Finlayson


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