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kirby urner

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Re: What math textbooks are "CS-friendly": criteria?
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On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Joe Niederberger
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> Now, just to short circuit Kirby, I looked this up:
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> Cheers,
> Joe N
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Yes, good to bring this up: there's a cultural divide (more a grammatical
/ conceptual divide) between the object oriented on the one hand, and the
FPers ("functional programmers") on the other.

It all has to do with the evils of hidden state and side effects, and how
strictly the language itself should police against them.

That cultural fracture is a bit frustrating because as soon as the
publishers see a market for CS-enabled math, they come up against
quarreling insiders who insist OO will ruin 'em for life as they won't get
the FP gospel.

A religious war, blech.

Python is famously cosmopolitan, like the Netherlands itself (Holland
(where the Dutch live)) and borrows / steals / uses / incorporates good
ideas from a wide variety of sources: ABC, Icon, C, and Haskell to name a
few. The latter is a darling of the FP world. You cited docs that recite
some of Python's FP heritage.

Because I'm sensitive to all this fractious fracturing, I'm not stridently
militant about "Python uber-alles" or any language "winning".

I think diversity is delicious and the ecosystem is all the more vibrant
when many species and varieties are allowed to thrive and negotiate their
mutual co-existence.

Python is a good entry point or grand central, as is Pascal's Triangle in
another sense (a meeting ground of so many threads), but then go off and
study something else, maybe a more conventional math notation from the
pre-computer days (or a even less conventional one from then).

Kirby


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