On Mar 20, 2014, at 2:30 PM, kirby urner <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> I would say our concept of "zero" and "one" has been far from static through time and no all ethnicities share precisely the same meanings.
I never said these elements were invariant over time and I for sure wasn?t talking about ?meanings?. To be clear, except in the rare case when a discussion is actually about ?meanings?, no one is ever talking about ?meanings", at any time, they are talking about ?ideas?. To not understand that, at all times, leads to a ?what is is? waste of time.
In mathematics, at some stage. any civilization will get to point, line, plane and space. These are not conclusions, they are elements. They distill from the process of tuning into this order of the universe we are talking about. And the distillation gets more and more finer and granular as time marches forward.