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mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de

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Re: � 488 Who said this?
Posted: May 5, 2014 2:54 AM
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On Monday, 5 May 2014 00:32:01 UTC+2, Zeit Geist wrote:


> Choose a e G and b e G.
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> Does a = b? We don't know.


Then you have not sets but only placeholders.
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> If we can show that a and b contain different Elements, then ~( a=b ).
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> However, we can't show this, but this doesn't Violate Extensionality.


But it does show that we have not sets that we know but only variables like x and y. Unless you know what x and y are, you have not two real numbers but only two placeholders. Can you understand that?
>

> Extensionality does Not say that given any two Set we must know whether or Not a = b.

For given sets we know this. For placeholders, we don't, but they are not sets.

Regards, WM


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