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Topic: § 488 Who said this?
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 mueckenh@rz.fh-augsburg.de Posts: 18,076 Registered: 1/29/05
Re: ï¿½ 488 Who said this?
Posted: May 5, 2014 2:55 AM

On Monday, 5 May 2014 00:32:01 UTC+2, Zeit Geist wrote:
> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:51:39 PM UTC-7, muec...@rz.fh-augsburg.de wrote:
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> > On Sunday, 4 May 2014 19:59:59 UTC+2, Zeit Geist wrote:
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> > > For example, let S be the Set of Indesceribles in R.
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> > > Let G be the Set of all 10-tuples of S.
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> > > Then, for any H e G, S\H exists.
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> > > Now, given two Elements of G, we can't tell them apart.
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> > > But this doesn't violate any Axiom.
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> > Axiom of extensionality. How do you know whether you have two different elements of G?
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> Ass, I know what the Axiom of Extensionality is!
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> Choose a e G and b e G.
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> Does a = b? We don't know.
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> If we can show that a and b contain different Elements, then ~( a=b ).
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> However, we can't show this, but this doesn't Violate Extensionality.
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> Extensionality does Not say that given any two Set we must know whether or Not a = b.
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> > But that is matheology. In mathematics we don't accept elements that cannot appear in mathematical discourse, dialogue, or monologue (i.e., which cannot be thought of).
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> I was just speaking of them. How do they not appear in Discourse?
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> Why don't you get a book on Set Theory and learn something about L and 0#.
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> > Regards, WM
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> ZG

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