Robert Hansen (RH) posted Jul 3, 2014 9:38 PM (http://mathforum.org/kb/message.jspa?messageID=9510167) - GSC's remarks follow: > > On Jul 3, 2014, at 11:38 AM, GS Chandy > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > >> > >> (RH): It seems that > >> leaving your child?s future in the hands of the > >> *stakeholders* is something to be avoided. > >> > > (GSC):Is that right? > > > > (GSC):Did your son at any stage of his life EVER take > >a school bus? Did you happen to drive that bus > >yourself? If not, you had entrusted the safety of > >your son in the hands of the busdriver, who happened > >to be a 'stakeholder?. > > (RH):This isn?t what I meant at all. Of course our kids > go > to school, it is mandatory, unless you have the time > to homeschool them. Nonetheless, we don?t leave it at > that. My son will probably attend a private school > for middle school unless we get lucky with the > lottery and he gets a spot in the *choice* school in > our area (similar to the charter school Joe?s kid > attended). And I tutor my son several times a week to > ensure that he is getting a real education. If we > were to leave our children?s future in the hands of > the stakeholders, we wouldn?t go through all of this > trouble. And many parents don?t or can?t. We are not > happy with the direction our education system went > and we don?t leave the future of our children?s lives > in its hands. That doesn?t mean we homeschool, > although that is a valid alternative, excepting the > social education elements. > > Bob Hansen > As usual, evading the issue, I see.
The issue encompasses:
i) *Stakeholders* involved in one's children's education;
ii) Seeking practical means to ensure that those *stakeholders* perform effectively within the 'educational system', which too often is ineffective and incompetent. When a 'system' such as the 'educational system' does not perform, this is a 'system problem';
iii) Seeking practical means whereby all stakeholders (including parents) may work to ensure that the 'system' may be made more effective.
(HINTS: Effectiveness cannot be accomplished via the 'slogans' we've seen at Math-teach. Some progress towards effective systems could become possible through effectively acting in and on the systems. This will demand that the *stakeholders* seek to understand the inter-relationships between the factors of the system. The "PRECEDENCE" relationship will not help, no matter how many 30-foot PERT Charts are put up on all the walls and other surfaces of the organisation).
GSC ("Still Shoveling! Not PUSHING!! Not GOADING!!!")